Property talk:P5587
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identifier for an item in the catalogue of the Swedish National Library
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5587#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5587#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5587#Scope, SPARQL
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Not only human constraint
[edit]The point of the new URI is that it's supposed to be used for both authorities and books (replacing both LIBRIS editions (P1182) and SELIBR ID (P906)). So the constraint/domain should be expanded – both with instance of (P31) → version, edition or translation (Q3331189) (edition-level items, such as zg86cd0921xzp3q), and also instance of (P31) → book (Q571) (work-level items, even though they haven't been fully implemented in Libris yet but they exist 53hlp2kp2xqdq5g). Ping @Salgo60, André Costa (WMSE): --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 06:52, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- On second thought, obviously instance of (P31) → book (Q571) for work-level items is too limiting because all sorts of materials can be included in a library catalog! --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 08:29, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE): yes agree its confusing but I hope LIBRIS will be the hub of a lot of Linked data in Sweden. What about a subject like we have a book about a church parish or a city? I miss some vision what a Linked Library system can do see todays tweet
- I guess we will have LIBRIS-URI for subjects also? But this is just a guess I feel status with LIBRIS XL is rather confusing
- search Söderala kyrka
- ==> LIBRIS 1741911 MARC format ==> 651 4 5 Sa Söderala: Söderala kyrka
- in LIBRIS XL if I look at the RDF i just get confused cvn9h64p4spnlqh
- search Söderala kyrka
- I guess we will have LIBRIS-URI for subjects also? But this is just a guess I feel status with LIBRIS XL is rather confusing
- On page about we can read in swedish
- @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE): yes agree its confusing but I hope LIBRIS will be the hub of a lot of Linked data in Sweden. What about a subject like we have a book about a church parish or a city? I miss some vision what a Linked Library system can do see todays tweet
Varje begrepp, som t.ex. ett ämnesord, identifieras med hjälp av en HTTP-URI. URI:n består av en adress och en textsträng som tillsammans utgör begreppets unika identifikator. Exempel: https://libris.kb.se/86lnrdxs0h826ss. Du som använder begreppen i egna system bör lagra de kompletta strängarna (https://...) i din databas. Vissa begrepp får även en mer "läsbar" identifikator baserat på etiketten för begreppet. Exemplet ovan, som identifierar ämnesordet "Skidåkning", har fått den alternativa identifikatorn: https://id.kb.se/term/barn/Skid%C3%A5kning. Men du bör använda formen https://libris.kb.se/86lnrdxs0h826ss när du lagrar den lokalt i ditt system.
- Looks like the links dont work ;-(
- - Salgo60 (talk) 08:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- The links work if you use katalogisering as prefix, e.g. https://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/86lnrdxs0h826ss for your example. So yeah, concepts are also included. Oh, and so are events and organizations. More and more confusing :| --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 09:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- I error reported it see fel-url-i-om-idkbse - Salgo60 (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- I feel a fully working Linked Library system will have all concepts we have in Wikidata and in other systems. The major problem I see coming is to match different "concepts" in a useful way and to do that I feel we need to communicate A LOT... and as I have learned in project wmse-riksarkivet-tora is that most institutions as LIBRIS, RAÄ , Riksarkivet, Lantmäteriverket, SCB, SOFI has no working changemanagement like we have in Wikidata with Phabricator ==> it will be a mess to track a change in one system that is dependent on a change in another system see my <flame on>tweet<frame off> ;-)
- My feeling is that people inside Wikidata are highly skilled, we have Phabricator ==> we have a controlled change process so maybe we can do some skill transfer...
- In an earlier post at LIBRIS I tried to explain how good Phabricator works for Wikidata see post and when it works for Facebook who has continous delivery and +500 releases per day link rapid release at massive scale I guess it will be enough for Libris...or RAÅ or Lantmäteriverket... - Salgo60 (talk) 11:48, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
- I missed this topic but went ahead and extended the constraint with a few more types. I agree that organisations, events and probably other types need to be added but it's probably easiest to investigate which as we come across them. /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- The links work if you use katalogisering as prefix, e.g. https://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/86lnrdxs0h826ss for your example. So yeah, concepts are also included. Oh, and so are events and organizations. More and more confusing :| --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 09:41, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
I changed type constraint to depreceated rank as Libris-URI (P5587) feels wrong to have type restriction for. Its like we type restricted objects in Wikidata - Salgo60 (talk) 15:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Example of the Linked data challenge
[edit]I am cleaning parish of the Church of Sweden (Q615980) see salgo60.github.io/Svenskaforsamlingar
For a church parish we add a picture of the church see example Q10711614#P18 were we add
- image (P18) --> depicts (P180) and media legend (P2096)
- as the picture is a picture of a church then depicts (P180) should be the Wikidata object for the church
When I started to search I found 2 objects
- Utvängstorp Church (Q10711613) has same as raa/bbr/21400000549685 ==> 21400000549685
- MULLSJÖ UTVÄNGSTORP 6:1 - husnr 1, UTVÄNGSTORPS KYRKA
- swedish = "Byggnadspresentation" = eng. represent a building
- sv Wikipedia sv:Utvängstorps kyrka
- Q30312533 has same as raa/bbr/21300000006832 ==> 21300000006832
- Mullsjö kn, UTVÄNGSTORP 6:1 M.FL. UTVÄNGSTORPS KYRKA
- swedish = "Anläggningspresentation" = eng. represents a bigger unit in this case more buildings
- no wikipedia article
So what what we "normal" Wikipedia people call a church is when we connects with the specialists at RAÄ two concepts ==> in the WIkipedia article we describe the church and in Wikidata we will have 2 objects relating to 2 concepts at RAÄ and how will LIBRIS solve this? Paintings from the National museum gets in Wikidata that this painting depicts (P180) ==> if the National museums starts also to deliver Linked data with depicts they need to coordinate with Libris/Wikidata/RAÄ..... example from a blogpost SPARQL search in Wikidata finding people buried at cemetery Adolf Fredrik who are depicted on paintings/sculptures link
LIBRIS Utvängstorp
[edit]If we check i LIBRIS they have
- book "Midnattsmässa i Utvängstorp 2017" that I guess is a recording in the church
- if we check in the MARC format its not classified
- I guess this book should have a subject that is
- same as Wikidata Utvängstorp Church (Q10711613)
- same as RAÄ 21400000549685 - MULLSJÖ UTVÄNGSTORP 6:1 - husnr 1, UTVÄNGSTORPS KYRKA - "Byggnadspresentation"
- book "Utvängstorps kyrka" is about the church
- today in MARC format we have
- 084 a Ic-cz Utvängstorp: Utvängstorps kyrka2 kssb/7
- 245 1 0 a Utvängstorps kyrka /c [Rune Lindgren]
- 610 2 4 a Utvängstorps kyrka
- today in MARC format we have
MARC format
[edit]A check in the MARC format book
- 084 - Other Classification Number (R)]
- 245 - Title Statement (NR)
- 610 - Subject Added Entry-Corporate Name (R)
LIBRIS XL
[edit]How is it today mapped
==>
- "hasTitle": "mainTitle": "Utvängstorps kyrka"
- "classification":
- "code": "Ic-cz Utvängstorp: Utvängstorps kyrka",
- "inScheme": "sameAs": "@id": "https://id.kb.se/term/kssb%2F7/"
- "subject": "@type": "Organization", "name": "Utvängstorps kyrka"
==> we have no links to an external concept
Lesson learned so far and what is needed
[edit]- its a great overlap of e.g. people in different databases ==> if external databases starts to use external ID:s as VIAF/LIBRIS the mapping process will be much faster and easier see discussion and blogpost in Swedish
- most(read all) institutions in Sweden lack good change management for external requests ==> linked data need changes with more datasets includes that is today impossible as you never get unique helpdesks id / have public workboards / skilled people answering questions
- Swedish National Library en:LIBRIS use today a discussion group for communication (2022 closed down as people complained see Internet Archive) and has no unique ticket numbers or back log see request for change management in Swedish (now only available at Internet Archive they deleted the discussion group after getting feedback that they dont deliver quality and have bad change management/ copyright info / bad uptime
- see also project wmse-library-data-2018 and Workboard columen LIBRIS
- the lack of good change management see "Spårbar Change management" the discussion group is deleted see Internet Archive version
- National Archives of Sweden lacks ticket numbers. Tweet to request unique tickers and something like Phabricator
- Swedish National Archives TORA project "a project concerning historical settlements in Sweden" - we had a meeting and they were interested in doing something with linked data and Wikidata see wmse-riksarkivet-tora we have a lot of open issues but no good communcation channel/ no common task management / no access to a prioritized backlog for the project...
- see also Workboard column Riksarkivet
- Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) has a function to send in Change requests but no unique numbers see Source:SBL a draft of a quality of source comment
- Digisam - trying since 2012 to make digital solutions in Sweden. I asked them to look into a common project platform for Linked Data actors see FB - got an answer but no action seen so far - they blog and have a FB account and a twitter account @digisam_raa but are difficult to understand what they have done since 2012. Looks like they have no public change request handling with a prioritized backlog. A wild guess is that museums etc. will not be early adopters of Linked Data my experience from Wikipedia/Wikidata is that you need an academic background and at least a Master in Applied physics for being a fast adopter of Wikidata.
- General tweet about the lack of Changemanagement with cc @nymyndighet
- RAÄ - en:Swedish_National_Heritage_Board they are difficult to communicate with. People answering on Facebook I feel are not the target group of a complex process like en:Linked Data and have a very low understanding of the need of a process see CMM
- en:Lantmäteriet - I have communicated with a person at the helpdesk and got a polite answer that we will add your suggestion about Change management to an internal suggestion box - my feeling is that they have very low maturity of handling complexity. Example of request on FB that is promised an answer but still open T203390
- SOFI Swedish Institute for Language and Folklore - we have a twitter communication with no ID and got an email from the developer and had a phone call. A request from 2017 was promised but forgotten see T200979.Next step is to try to set up a meeting as Wikidata are very advanced in handling words in a Linked data context see new project Wikidata:Lexicographical_data "a project started to gather all words in all languages" see Lexicographical data, Wikidata Lexemes property proposal
- see also Workboard column SOFI
- Swedish place name register SOFI (P5536) mapped with Wikidata ==> we can produce maps with links to SOFI
- interesting to learn more but feels like a Linked data vision is missing maybe a meeting/workshop...
- SCB en:Statistics_Sweden - twitter communication and email but no unique helpdesk ids. Change was done but when sending in a change request the answer was no its not working like that. My understanding is that they dont have a well defined change process for external requests but has "heroes" ;-) example tasks T199802
- Nobel Media - we created a federated search Wikidata -> Nobel Data see task T200668 - looks like its a Vinnova project that is not maintained any more. Data is missing for 2017 see T202034 - story heard is that the person working with Linked data has "left the building" - email sent on Linked In to a contact at Nobel Media no response so far - very low prio
- en:Nationalmuseum,_Stockholm - We had a problem with about 30 duplicates (see constraint report) Problem solved in Wikidata by "heroes" link no change process at en:Nationalmuseum,_Stockholm is my guess and also no trackable process at sv:Kulturnav is my guess.... we cleaned in Wikidata and didn't hear anything more....
- the interesting thing with this process is that Wikidata both did an import from sv:Kulturnav and from en:Nationalmuseum,_Stockholm is my understanding and then we found those duplicates...
- Swedish Musical Heritage ID (P4607) we got a data file and they responded on emails about reported errors but no unique helpdesk number and also a feeling of a not controlled change process and no Linked Data understanding
- Swedish Literature Bank Author ID (P5101) we did a webscraping ourself using mix and match - catalog 1223 . Interested in linked data and responsive on twitter but a very messy change process when we asked about duplicates...
- looks like we have got an API and maybe can make this better see T238932
- Swedish Academy member ID (P5325) no contact with them just did a webscraping and matched see mic and match - catalog 1322
- Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon ID (P4963) spoke more times with them and they had budget problems. One stupid thing is that about 25 percent of the work they do is for the same profiles Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) has already done see blogpost. My feeling is that both Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) and Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon ID (P4963) lack understanding of having a data driven web liked Wikidata see my POC of adding churchbook references in Wikidata ==> the sources could be reused. See also project Wikidata:FactGrid that is planned to be a platform for supporting the research process
- You send in an email and get no unique number back and feels like no controlled change process is in place and no experience in Linked Data. See blogpost Länkat data/FAIR principles: Kan Wikidata vara en brygga mellan LIBRIS och exempelvis Riksarkivet SVAR -> och primärkällor. If Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) delivered using FAIRData the quality and work of Wikidata would be much better and more trusted plus Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon ID (P4963) dont have to "redo" the work...…
- support for constraints in Wikidata
- today Wikidata has the possibility to define Database constraints like Church of Sweden parish code (P778) should have x number and that if Church of Sweden parish code (P778) is present you should have an image, Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324), etc....
- planned in September is to implement contemporary constraint (Q25796498) ==> inside wikidata a person cant be born in a parish that didnt exist at a given time see T141859
- support for constraints with external data source
- next step will be that we in Wikidata can set up that the birth of August Strindberg (Q7724) should be the same as SBL 34518 ==> we can get Open Free data in Wikipedia/Wikidata that is confirmed with a trusted source SBL
- BUT I feel SBL are still producing books like 1918 and has no one telling them that Digital first is what you should produce 2018 ==> Wikidata will have problem working together with SBL. Why isnt SBL more interested? We have matched +4000 SBL profiles with Libris see blog but still no reaction... I feel we have a group of people not embracing quality and change? When teeling people in the board of directors at the National Archives I just get a deep sigh ==> I guess nothing will happen in the near future....
- next step will be that we in Wikidata can set up that the birth of August Strindberg (Q7724) should be the same as SBL 34518 ==> we can get Open Free data in Wikipedia/Wikidata that is confirmed with a trusted source SBL
- support for constraints in Wikidata
- You send in an email and get no unique number back and feels like no controlled change process is in place and no experience in Linked Data. See blogpost Länkat data/FAIR principles: Kan Wikidata vara en brygga mellan LIBRIS och exempelvis Riksarkivet SVAR -> och primärkällor. If Dictionary of Swedish National Biography ID (P3217) delivered using FAIRData the quality and work of Wikidata would be much better and more trusted plus Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon ID (P4963) dont have to "redo" the work...…
- Dictionary of Swedish Translators ID (P5147) met sv:Lars Kleberg at KB and told him that we planned to add them to Linked data... no more contact - did webscraing and created mix and match catalog/1241
- Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) from the Swedish National Archives - we are manually matching them in a project see github and task T199784. We had a contact in may with NAD and response was after the holiday... I also visited them last week in Växjö on the genealogy conference see WMSE-Riksarkivet-NAD and task T200181... I guess nothing will happen. Interesting is that a private vendor Arkiv Digital directly set up a meeting now on thursday see T199907
- SVT Play ID (P6817) interesting data I have spoken with them once and also with some project manager...see T225394
- Swedish Royal Theater Archive (P7574) good data and have spoken with them once. Big potential but then we need to speak see T222515
- Riksdagen person-ID (P1214) easy to speak with and skilled. We had a good meeting see T235527. Change management using email
- See also more Wikidata Swedish related properties
- Swedish National Library en:LIBRIS use today a discussion group for communication (2022 closed down as people complained see Internet Archive) and has no unique ticket numbers or back log see request for change management in Swedish (now only available at Internet Archive they deleted the discussion group after getting feedback that they dont deliver quality and have bad change management/ copyright info / bad uptime
What I guess is needed
[edit]A) we need to document how a "concept" like church is defined in Wikipedia, Libris, National Museum.... Both in Swedish but also in English B) we need in Wikidata try to describe/document what we thought when we imported/mapped it so the next person get an easy understanding. After speaking to Andre Costa the decision was to import "Anläggningspresentation" and some "Byggnadspresentation" C) we need to find a "standard" process inside Wikidata how to flag/track/report problems in a consistent way with external data providers see EPIC T202530 Feedback processes and tools for data-providers D) best would be if RAÄ, LIBRIS, Digisam?, en:National_Archives_of_Sweden starts to show what vision they have and set up some kind of shared workspaces for linked data in Sweden were we easy could D-1) discuss concepts D-2) document like Nobel data did see picture of db modell in Task T200668 D-3) maybe have a common platform to track changes or a possibility to forward helpdesk tasks between systems "upstreams" ==> D-3-1) unique helpdesk numbers that everyone can use to communicate D-3-1-1) one place to track the status of a task and who is in charge of the task and dependencies compare the usage of Phabricator for project Wikidata and wmse-riksarkivet-tora. D-3-2) a platform for sending in Change requests D-3-3) a platform to discuss how we set up e.g. federated search between all linked data systems - compare Wikidata <-> Nobel Data task T200668
How to make Linked data possible
[edit]I suggest that we start to define the process maturity for handling en:linked data. I guess it will be the same as CMM Capability Maturity Model see video
As documented above getting no helpdesk tickets or having no process for asking Change requests ==> we are on the initial level were we hope finding "heroes" in the organisation that will help us. When we agree that we have a problem and a common vision then we can take step 1 together is my experience doing things like this before in organisations with a requirement to deliver a good result.....
My personal believe with such poor change management shown above people will not trust you and will not invest in time/money to do solutions with your data see tweet
- Salgo60 (talk) 06:27, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
LIBRIS XL roadmap
[edit]- librisbloggen.kb.se libris-roadmap
- Salgo60 (talk) 10:56, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Formatting URL what is good or bad
[edit]@Alicia_Fagerving_(WMSE): what is the user case you address with your change 770027612 https://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/$1 ?
As LIBRIS has no Landing page I prefer an URL like https://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/search/libris?q=$1
My arguments:
- With the above URL you get the "agent" as result number 1 ==> it makes sense for the user PLUS you get the related instances... see my comment lanka-librisuri/#c3083566
- We create solutions using the formatting URL in external tools ==> it should be useful for other tools
- Tool wmflabs HUB use the formatter URL ==> from an user perspective getting to an entry with no links adds no value
- Example how Swedish Church parishes use this tool from Family Search T200515#4683374
- LIBRIS are aware that have no "landingpages" maybe will fix it see kundo.se
Related properties to use
Related questions @Alicia_Fagerving_(WMSE)::
- is there any plans that LIBRIS XL will update its data with same as Wikidata/Wikipedia?
- status of LIBRIS Federated search see question
- Wikidata <-> Nobelprize.org is done and useful see SPARQL in action: Comparing 2 datasets using federated SPARQL
- Salgo60 (talk) 07:19, 22 October 2018 (UTC) phone: ++46705937579
- Linking directly to the person's entry has the advantage of being able to see all the biographical information at a glance. If you link to the search page, you have to perform an extra click in order to get to the information that you expected to see in the first place. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 07:31, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Any status / activity with federated search? - Salgo60 (talk) 08:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- my question was what do you expect to see?
- to confirm it is the same as person?
- to learn something new about the same as person?
- to understand what LIBRISXL knows that Wikidata dont know?
- As you are in Wikidata Osamu Shimomura (Q205345) you already know much more than LIBRISXL knows and presents on the page jgvz3wj23jlqq08
- LIBRIS XL tells me he won the Nobel prize 2008 but no easy way finding the books
- search jgvz3wj23jlqq08
- shows related items #LIBRISXL has about him i.e. Wikidata knows he is same as and LIBRIS tells us a little bit more
- I feel #1 adds no value and its impossible for a "normal" user to find the related books with todays LIBRISXL design. Today they link auth/319922 which is even less user friendly than FAUT:319922
- I asked LIBRIS XL if they have any user cases available so we understand why its designed as it is see question
- For me presenting an author and the related books must be one of the main purpose of a Library system and it feels odd they design a system that dont give the users an easy way to get added value - Salgo60 (talk) 08:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- This is not the place to discuss the development of Libris. Please keep in mind that the Libris XL interface is still under development. The things you are pointing out will probably change a lot before Libris XL becomes the default interface. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- yes I also hope that but I get afraid we will sit with yesterdays weather for the next year and therefor I have problem understand your change to something I think is less good and not at all user friendly... call me if you think you will discuss this and give an update of the LIBRIS activities ++46705937579 I think Wikipedia and LIBRIS XL can do a lot interesting see tweets #LIBRISXL - Salgo60 (talk) 08:45, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- I've always interpreted formatter URL (P1630) as being the page where the data provider expects (human) readers to end up if they look up the identifier. For a Wikidataitem that would be
https://www.wikidata.org/$1
for Libris-URI. As such it should behttps://libris.kb.se/katalogisering/$1
. Linking to the search would be the equivalent to, for Wikidata, linking to the results of a sparqll query listing everything that has a relation to the item - sure it gives you more info but its not what the user requested or the provider intended. I can see a search link being used, but only when there are no landing pages at all, not the case for Libris-URI. - As you mention there are two other properties.
- formatter URI for RDF resource (P1921) Should follow the KB spec, meaning it should be
https://libris.kb.se/$1
. The wmflabs HUB and other tools making used of linked data should primarilly make use of this property. If they don't the error lies with those tools, not with Wikidata. If the link doesn't give you rdf when you navigate there using a linked data content negotiator (i.e. not your browser) then that is a separate thing to raise with Libris. - third-party formatter URL (P3303) Here we are free to link to anything we feel gives a good view of the data (c.f.. Resonator for Wikidata). I have no opinion of how this one is formatted.
- formatter URI for RDF resource (P1921) Should follow the KB spec, meaning it should be
- /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- @André Costa (WMSE), Alicia Fagerving (WMSE):Now LIBRIS XL released 1.3 that at least have a klickable number see tweet - Salgo60 (talk) 07:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've always interpreted formatter URL (P1630) as being the page where the data provider expects (human) readers to end up if they look up the identifier. For a Wikidataitem that would be
- yes I also hope that but I get afraid we will sit with yesterdays weather for the next year and therefor I have problem understand your change to something I think is less good and not at all user friendly... call me if you think you will discuss this and give an update of the LIBRIS activities ++46705937579 I think Wikipedia and LIBRIS XL can do a lot interesting see tweets #LIBRISXL - Salgo60 (talk) 08:45, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- This is not the place to discuss the development of Libris. Please keep in mind that the Libris XL interface is still under development. The things you are pointing out will probably change a lot before Libris XL becomes the default interface. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Wrong RDF formatter URI
[edit]I think the RDF formatter URI should include the #it
-suffix as the plain URI is only for the metadata record rather then the resource itself. Ping @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE), @Salgo60, @André Costa (WMSE) Abbe98 (talk) 19:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- ok if you check Swedish Wikipedia So9q has added more links
- Maybe candidates for third-party formatter URL (P3303) I dont think the Swedish National Library has any place to ask questions any more its more that people complains that they are scared of communicating ;-)
- - Salgo60 (talk) 22:22, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98 You are probably right. It is also the pattern that they themselves indicate is the uri. I support adding it to the preferred formatter URL (P1630). / André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 09:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Misleading name
[edit]The name for "Libris-URI" should be changed to "Libris ID", the reason is that it is not an URI. Infrastruktur (talk) 18:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)