Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Memons
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was merge. Petros471 17:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Siddique Katiya has created a duplicate article of Memon as Memons. The Memon article deals with Memons and the Memons page was a redirect. Siddique Katiya removed the redirect tag [1] on 18:50, 9 May 2006 and created a duplicate article. I have requested a merge of both articles. But this tag was removed. I want these articles to be merged and make Memons page again a redirect as it was on [2] 7 May 2006 or it should be deleted. Siddiqui 21:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion proposal
[edit]The main reasons I have created the new article entitled Memons is because, it seems that Mr. Siddiqui does not like to share certain view of others, some of the comment he made about Memons is not only bias but offensive. For example In culture and history section, he mentioned that “they have retained many cultural traits from their pre-Islamic past” He is also unnecessarily focusing on the Memons the they are belongs to a Sufi order which is not necessarily accurate He also removed one of my comment in section in both articles Memons today Memoni is falling into disuse and the younger generation is unlikely to learn it as their mother tongue for various reasons. Development of inferiority complex about their heritage by many memon Please refer to discussion section As a member of Memon community, I am well informed about this subject than Mr. Siddiqui. The article Memons is more comprehensive than Memon - and this article will continue to grow Also I have created at least 10 new articles related to very subject, and each new article, I have tried to provide link to both articles just to be fair. --Siddique Katiya 23:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- “they have retained many cultural traits from their pre-Islamic past” I did not write this line. You can remove it.
- Memons todayMemoni is falling into disuse and the younger generation is unlikely to learn it as their mother tongue for various reasons. Development of inferiority complex about their heritage by many memon. I have no objection you can add it.
- If you check the history of [3] page you would note that I did not revert your changes. I reverted changes by Shoaib Siddique, 80.92.54.101, 69.192.32.195, Sajjad S, etc. Can you please show me where did I revert your changes.
- Siddiqui 23:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy revert to #redirect Memon. POV forks are deplorable. Work for a consensus in talk:Memon. -- RHaworth 06:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed to merge I am quite satisfied with the explanation by Siddiqui and I agreed to merge or transfer the contents of Memons article to Memon including restoring the redirect tag of Memons to Memon I hope in the future that any disputed issues will be fully discussed. I also suggest that Siddique will make this changes so there is no misunderstanding.--Siddique Katiya 02:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect
I created the Memon article anonymously in 2004, using the IP Address 168.209.98.35. I tried to be as objective as possible when I created the Memon article, and tried to maintain that until I was rendered unable to edit on Wikipedia for technical reasons. A number of accuracy disputes, which were not resolved have been removed without adequate explanation, and the article still does not cite its sources to a satisfactory extent (the meaning of the word Memon, for example, which was disputed has now been stated as an absolute fact to be derived from Momin - a look at the Sindhi Memon article shows an alternative derivation theory also exists).
I also propose that the article Memon (tribe) also be deleted and merged. Park3r 12:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This nomination was incomplete. Listing now. - Liberatore(T) 18:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- In my view, Memon and Memons deals with the same ethnic-cultural group and should be merged. Memon (tribe) deals with Memon tribe of Sindh. The part of the Memon tribe migrated to Gujarat state in India and slowly changed culturally from their cousins in Sindh. I would rather propose creating category called Memon for these articles. I also have no objection to merging these three articles.
- Siddiqui 22:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per nomination - Siddique Katiya is completely in the wrong and I caught them blanking the article discussed. Also, if you feel that there are some biased oppinions in an article, fix them...don't go laying down the law and creating dissorder and confusion as you did. Vaniac 22:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.