Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Guess

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. All concerns in the deletion rationale seem to have been addressed. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Guess

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Reviewing this article reveals a multitude of issues that violate Wikipedia's guidelines on both Biographies of Living Persons.

The first guideline, neutral point of view, has not been followed. The article continuously discusses uncited reviews of the poet's work, all of which are incredibly laudatory. Previously, I deleted a section titled "Reviews" that was devoted to this, but this is present in the biography as well. There is no ruminations on the qualifications of the reviewers, or any indication that these reviews exist, they're just interwoven into the article.

The second guideline, verifiability, has also not been followed. The introduction and biography appear to be almost entirely copied from the poet's personal website, except for a few sentences, which have been rearranged slightly. I have also not been able to find discussions of the subject in academic journals or newspapers (other than basic blurbs that the poet published a new work, with no discussion about the poet himself), although I welcome this point to be challenged by any editors that manage to find reliable secondary sources on the subject.

The third guideline, no original research, is similar. Almost all of the edits are from IP addresses or accounts which have exclusively worked on this page, thereby hinting that these accounts have a close connection to the subject. One of these accounts shares the name of the subject of the article. And there are no citations to any sources, just a listing of the poet's website. Therefore, this article might be just original research from the subject and/or close connections.

As a result, I would like to nominate this page for deletion. Panian513 18:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Poetry, and Australia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep review in Southerly (1998)[1], review in Southerly (1989)[2]. Included in the Penguin Book of Christmas Poems(1992)[3], Review Social Alternatives (1998)[4]. Review of co-authored anthology in LiNQ (Literature in North Queensland) (1992)[5]. Found these without great access to Australian sources, so I think he's probably minor but notable. There are also, of course a bunch of passing mentions, and a couple of routine coverage newspaper articles I found[6][7]. Probably more of those with better access to Australian newspapers. Jahaza (talk) 22:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also frequently published in Quadrant and mentioned twice in the Oxford Guide to Literary Australia so it seems people in literary Australia expected to know who he was.[8] Jahaza (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep on basis of articles identified by Jahaza subject apperas notable.

Article definitely needs a NPOV re-write.

I think it best to keep this article and flag its issues. Jack4576 (talk) 08:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as copyvio [9]. Keeping this text would be a violation of basic site policy. XOR'easter (talk) 18:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: In response to your comment re-written the entry to address copyvio issues Jack4576 (talk) 08:40, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.