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The aluminized baddie balloons used for parties these days are not expanded when filled, just inflated, and so are not under much pressure at all. My experience is that when helium filled they lose lift far more slowly than latex balloons, partly because the container isn't trying to collapse, and partly because aluminized Mylar is far less porous to helium than latex is. (I expect the aluminization fills in the holes!) The current section on physics ignores this sort of "non-inflated" balloon completely. Jeh (talk) 10:40, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Brown With His Kite as the ball that can be used in that test flight on June 2019. ParadeMan1986 Studios says "Charlie Brown with his Kite could be retired from the parade" on YouTube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.19.34.3 (talk) 16:06, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The returning balloons for the 93rd annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. In Mid-September, oqewjfjcadbsliuvbksidzte updates with information on the 2019 parade, as well as the lineup of returning balloons and floats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.19.34.3 (talk) 16:11, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cant a balloon be bounced on? Its it good to do? UB Blacephalon (talk) 11:15, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a balloon can be bounced on. If you want to add a section about that, please provide reliable sources about it. And no, Wikipedia is not an advice column. Please see WP:NOTHOWTO. —Remember, I'murmate — I'ma editor2022 ^{(🗣️💬 |📖📚)} 23:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The inventor of the rubber balloon should be changed from Michael Faraday to T. Hancock (I assume but am not certain that this is the same Thomas Hancock mentioned later) or not include such information at all.

There is no evidence that Faraday invented the rubber balloon. The currently cited source is not credible. Some sources point to the 17 volume of the Quarterly Journal of Science, Literature and the Arts published in 1924. Faraday is in this volume, as is a report of working with caoutchouc (rubber) to create elastic bags that are expanded with air, but this report has nothing to do with Faraday. These rudimentary balloons were not created by Michael Faraday but by a Mr. T. Hancock. Cyberllanowanderer (talk) 05:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding on to this: in volume 21 of the same quarterly, Faraday does talk about working with Caoutchouc, but it was provided to him by the same T. Hancock referenced above.

If you would like to see the article in volume 17, look for the sixth article in the Miscellaneous Intelligence section. I have not found any earlier reference to rubber balloons in this quarterly. Cyberllanowanderer (talk) 05:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can see Faraday is listed as the inventor of the rubber balloon (1824) and Hancock as the producer of toy rubber balloons in 1825. In addition Hancock was a major pioneer in the rubber industry. I couldn't find much in the way of very good resources but there was one from Science World in Vancouver. I added it to the article. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have found no reliable source that indicates Faraday was the inventor of the rubber balloon. The reference you added has no primary source citation. The only citations I have found online point to the Quarterly Journal of Science as the source for that claim, but, after examining that volume, I see that they are clearly mistaken! The 17th volume of the quarterly shows it was Hancock who expanded elastic bags with air and an examination of the language in that article suggests it was a novel experiment. It is not until the 21st volume that Faraday discusses experimenting with Caoutchouc, and he obtains it from Hancock!

This is a myth being circulated around the internet... Cyberllanowanderer (talk) 20:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ChatGPT seems to think that The Life and Letters of Faraday mentions his invention of the balloon, but I quickly glanced through the source and saw no such claim -- although, there is mention of his working with Caoutchouc as recorded in the aforementioned Quarterly. Cyberllanowanderer (talk) 20:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At this point we seem to need more input. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]