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Someone should translate the German version of the entry into English. I'd do it, but with only rudimentary skill at German, this would take me a month. Just a suggestion.

Very good idea, especially as the German article disagrees considerably with this one:

"Damit gelten die Vorschriften über zulässige Zutaten des alten BierStG jetzt nur noch für die Bierherstellung in Deutschland für den deutschen Markt. Importiertes Bier ist aufgrund des o.a. Urteils des Europäischen Gerichtshofes von 1987 nicht an diese Vorschriften gebunden; auch deutsche Brauereien dürfen davon abweichen, wenn sie für den Export produzieren, oder für „besondere Biere“ eine Ausnahmegenehmigung erhalten."

That's very different from what is stated here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.209.208.11 (talk) 13:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The second sentence of the first paragraph says: "only ingredients ... water, barley, hops ... only the four permissible ingredients..." Are there four ingredients or three? Just asking, and also saying that I don't know. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quodlibetor (talk • contribs) 00:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: the original law specified only three ingredients. All modern commercial brewers in Germany add a fourth ingredient, yeast, and many also add wheat, cane sugar, hop extract (containing distilled grain alcohol), and many other ingredients (some of which, such as isinglass and carageenan, are claimed to be absent in the final product). Any claim by a modern commercial brewery in Germany that they are complying with the "1516" Reinheitsgebot is merely a marketing ploy, and is clearly dishonest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever keeps editing the English version of this page really to improve his or her writing skills. I went ahead and make (MADE) some grammatical changes; the page is still not pretty, but at least it doesn't sound like a first year "Inglisch" student wrote the wiki.

Future editors, if you plan to edit this page, please, please, please make sure you are a native or near-native writer. Don't just directly translate words from the German version of this wiki, or write without at least consulting someone who uses English on a regular basis.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.169.88 (talk • contribs) 06:24, 28 November 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Please sign and date your demands with four tildes ~~~~ so other editors are able to ask you for translation help if it becomes an issue. - WeniWidiWiki 23:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is clearly not the oldest food-purity regulation. Kashrut and many others are older. If the author meant the oldest continually enforced law, that is wrong because it is no longer legally enforced. I am removing this from the article. Superm401 | Talk 07:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The purity law was indeed the first consumer protection law. It was not ment as a purity law to serve purity food just for the heck of it. It served as a consumer protection law to ensure that no poisoned ingredients were included due to the fact that people did experiment with a lot of ingredients at that time which led to many deaths. -- 80.109.212.110 (talk) 16:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to Europe. -- 80.109.212.110 (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know that among the previous references now missing is the article [German Reinheitsgebot - why it's a load of old bollocks]. I always thought it was a rather informative and appropriately colorful article. Other beer articles have healthy references, and without one this article becomes harder for a reader to verify. --Edwin Herdman 14:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the law was revoked in 1987, why in 1990 is it being enforced here:

The law still causes controversy. After German reunification in 1990 the Neuzeller Kloster Brewery, a former monastery brewery in the East German town of Neuzelle, Brandenburg, was warned to stop selling its traditional black beer, a product possibly older than the Reinheitsgebot itself,[citation needed] as it contained sugar, and thus could not be sold as "beer" under German food-labeling laws based on the Reinheitsgebot. In the end, it was allowed to sell it under the name Schwarzer Abt ("Black Abbot" but not "beer") within Germany.

The law is contra the single market of the EU. However, this EU-regulation is just applicable if we have a cross-border case. As long as we stay inside a domestic market (eg. Germany) the law is still applicable as the highest rank of law is the domestic constitution in this case. --80.109.196.100 (talk) 20:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Older than Kosher laws and Halal laws?

Before its official repeal in 1987, it was the oldest food quality regulation in the world.^[1]

Under "criticism" it a sentence says:

"Samuel Adams (beer) is reportedly the only American produced beer to be Reinheitsgebot-compliant"

This does not have a source, and is very untrue. Not only are there many breweries in America using only barley, hops, water, and yeast, Sam Adams uses many adjunct and additional ingredients (Winter Lager- Cinnamon, Orange peel, etc; Blackberry witbier- blackberries; Cherry wheat- Cherries, etc. etc.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.56.165 (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Weimar? Where is Weißensee? Have a look at the article by German Wikipedia for a more accurate point of view.