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Hi Discott. Just posted a 5-point reply, but my connection cut out and lost it. I am trying to remember what I wrote. Will post soonest. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 17:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see if I remembered everything.

Firstly, the author's paper is about something else, so any reference to Afrikaners serves merely to strengthen an argument, it is NOT a statement about Afrikaners per se. Let's look for example at references to customary law - how do these relate to Afrikaners/ South Africa, which have followed Roman-Dutch Law for centuries? So, much as I accept your claim that the author is "a highly respected and regarded academic", that does not mean to say that every single fragment used has to stand up to scrutiny. On the practical level, if the majority of Afrikaners (the "poor Afrikaners") support the idea of the homeland and their own parties, why are they voting DA, why are they not all living at Orania? Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 19:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia, thanks for getting back to me on this. Here are my responses in the order you gave yours to me. 1) It is true that the author's paper is about some thing else, however that does not disqualify it in any way from being a useful and informative source on another matter. A great many references that make important contributions to subjects on Wikipedia are from sources that are not directly about that subject but mention it in passing. A nice example is on the History of the Jews of Brazil, where a quote from Adam Smiths the Wealth of Nations is used to give greater historical context on their history in the country. 2) Your point about poor Afrikaners not supporting a Afrikaans homeland, as a broad sweeping statement, is a good one and if it is used in that article it might be best to reword it somewhat so as to make it less of a generalisation. However as a statement about what Mamdani has observed as to the political constituency within the Afrikaans community that tends to support the idea of a homeland it remains true and so should be included. 3) Additionally Mamdani's analysis add's an additional layer of context and analysis that, I feel, if much needed in that section of the page on Afrikaners after 1994. In the wording I used it was made clear that it was his analysis so there should be no issue of it appearing as a universally accepted truth but rather, as it is, the informed opinion of a hightly respected academic -who specialises in African ethnicity and politics- as to their situation.--Discott (talk) 08:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Discott.

Thanks for the invitation. Unfortunately I will be in Durban at that time. My email address is: jacobmacmillanza@gmail.com, thanks.Jacobmacmillan (talk) 15:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I will add you to the AGM chat invite list. It will be a live event so you will need to login at that time on the 28th.--Discott (talk) 15:54, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Discott,

Thanks - will try my best to make it BookshelfZA (talk) 18:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks BookshelfZA, looking forward to seeing you there. Welcome to stay/also come to the Wiki Loves Monuments awards ceremony at 5:30pm for 6:00pm at the same place and date. --Discott (talk) 10:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Discott, I’ve seen that you recently created Gupta family and that you’ve made several additions to it over the last few days. As stated on my user page, I am a representative of Oakbay Resources and Energy and would welcome a discussion with you on certain areas of the article which might benefit from some balance. I’ve been working on a few possible additions to the current version in my sandbox. As you’ll see, I’m suggesting additional content supported by reliable secondary sources, not proposing that anything is removed.

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• The inclusion of some more companies owned/part-owned by the Guptas under ‘Interests’ (note that three of these rely on a primary source, namely Oakbay’s 2015 Annual Report – that’s the only time I’ve used one here).

• The Gupta family’s response to allegations of undue influence on the presidency.

• A response by India’s High Commissioner to the Waterkloof air force base controversy.

• Some more detail on Oakbay’s mining operations.

• Zuma’s response to the allegations surrounding Nhlanhla Nene’s dismissal.

• Mosebenzi Zwane’s response to allegations surrounding Tegeta.

• Some more detail on the recent court order.

These proposed additions are highlighted in blue; there are a couple of strikethroughs as well.

If you could have a look at these suggestions and leave feedback there or on my talk page that would be much appreciated. I will follow Wikipedia policy on COI editing at all times. Thanks. OakbayRep (talk) 11:05, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi OakbayRep. Thank you very much for the feedback and input. I have looked through the working page on the Gupta family on your sandbox. I think you have made a number of valuable additions to the Gupta family article which add a great deal of depth and help promote a NPOV, and therefor should be used on the main space article. So good in fact I would guess that you are a long time Wikipedia editor (not that that matters very much to me either which way). Good job. I from what I have seen of the article on your sandbox as of writing this message I feel you should add all of the proposed additions to the page in question.--Discott (talk) 12:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Discott, thanks very much for this feedback. Strictly speaking as a COI editor I’d prefer not to make a direct edit to the article itself, but I’ve now amended the sandbox to remove all the mark-ups and strikethroughs. I have also made a few punctuation changes. Would you be happy just to transfer this straight across? Hope that’s okay.OakbayRep (talk) 15:57, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Discott: hi again, just wondering if you might be okay to transfer what’s here (it's ready to go - no highlighted text or strikethroughs) to the main article space? I know you gave me the go-ahead to do it myself but with my COI I’d prefer to leave it to you if possible. Let me know otherwise I’d be okay to do it if necessary. Thanks very much. OakbayRep (talk) 06:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi OakbayRep, I feel that it would be better if you rather made those contributions. I think that it is not a series breach of COI and if others have any concerns about it then we can discuss it on the article's talk page. There is precedence for this kind of thing so I am sure people will be okay with it so long as it adheres to other editing conventions and rules which it seems to me as though it does.--Discott (talk) 08:58, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Discott, no problem at all – that’s done. Thanks again for looking at it. OakbayRep (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I doubt that reference to http://artthrob.co.za/04mar/artbio.html meets wp:notability (people) Please read. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jim1138:, please expand on why you feel it does not meet wp:notability (people). It seems to fit the requirements to me.Discott (talk) 14:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: Please review and undo all your recent edits where you added the Dyslexia category to people where the article does not explicitly mention dyslexia. I already have reverted some. Thank you. - DVdm (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@DVdm:, thank you for your message. Two things, you can find references for all of the dyslexia category additions I have made on the List of people diagnosed with dyslexia page, secondly I am not aware that one needs references on the page being categorised to add a category to that page. I will look into that now. I am somewhat perturbed by, what seems to be, the hasty accusation towards me that I am engaging in "vandalism". I would suggest investigate such editing activities further before making accusations.--Discott (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That list of people diagnosed with dyslexia does not count in any way as a reliable source—see wp:CIRCULAR. My apologies for that second warning. That was a wrong button. I have replaced it with the proper warning. But of course, this way of edting might be interpreted as vandalism if you would continue adding this category to articles without it being backed up by a sourced mention in the article. - DVdm (talk) 21:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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@DVdm:, thanks for the prompt reply. I fear my previous comment might have been misinterpreted. I did not mean to say that the article was in and of its self a satisfactory reference for engaging in this categorisation exercise (I agree entirely that had that been the case it would not be in line with wp:CIRCULAR); but instead meant to rather say that the references for each name on that particular page were satisfactory for the purpose.

I want to add that in response to your request I have halted all dyslexic related categorisation efforts but, until the merits of this categorisation process is discussed further, have decided not to undo the edits in question. I look forward to your feedback on this issue and apologise for any inconvenience you feel this might have caused.--Discott (talk) 21:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]