User talk:Peregrine981

Hello, Peregrine981. Welcome to Wikipedia.

A few tips for you to start going. (I'll send more if I see that I can help you :-)

• Just edit stuff off the cuff for a while. We like that!
• When you have time, check out Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers + the links in there.
• You can sign your stuff on talk pages with ~~~~ It will convert to your username + the time. "anon" is fine too.
• If puzzled, put a question on Wikipedia:Village pump, or feel free to ask me on my talk page if it's a very general question.
• Most of all, have fun but take our work seriously!

-- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 23:08 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Hi Peregrine981 :) One little thing, you don't need to use _ as space-seperators in [[] links. You can use spaces, and they look much nicer that way :) Dysprosia 23:15 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind Peregrine981 02:23, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Hi. Why are you changing the format in country articles such as South Africa from "km2" to "km2" and from "m2" to "m2"? --snoyes 21:26, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

This is a very good question. I haven't done so intentionally, but it seems to happen when I make an edit. All I did for South Africa was to insert the Danish wiki link, and a side effect seems to have been the m2 change. I suppose this has to do with some sort of technical character set problem that I am unaware of. Sorry for the inconvenience, I would appreciate any advice on how to prevent this problem.

Peregrine981 23:32, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It's still happening. What browser are you using? --User:Docu

I am using IE 5.0 for mac. I have recently been led to believe that this will cause problems with UTF-8 text, but I don't know why it causes trouble on the english wikipedia. I also have mozilla, so maybe I should just use that when on wikipedia. Peregrine981 01:33, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Nice to still see you working here after so many months, even if mostly at the Danish wiki. I spend some time at teh French one and it reminds me of what the English encyclopedia was like when I first arrived, with many gapping holes, but also much easier to find a non-specific topic to work on. So I understand the 981, but why the Peregrine? - SimonP 20:02, Nov 19, 2003 (UTC)

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Nice work on Sociobiolgy. Have you read Ullica Segerstrale's Defenders of the Truth? orthogonal 00:46, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. I have read "Defenders of the Truth." I have been consulting it for my update on that page, although I fear I still haven't done the controversy full justice. Its an improvement, but there's still work to be done. Especially in clarifying the scientific objections. PS, what's the etiquette on posting these discussions? Do I post on my discussion page in response to your question, or on your page? Peregrine981 00:56, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I think probably on the page where user you're responding to posted. (But for personal messages, you're right, it's a toss-up. I've done what you've done, ans posted "courtesy copies" on the other user's talk page, but it's probably unnecessary if the other use has selected "watch this page" when posting the comment) Also, it tends to be convention to indent each follow-up post. orthogonal 01:03, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for applying my suggested update to Sociobiology; I agree it reads much better now. In case you missed seeing it, note my expansion of the NB section at the end of Naturalistic fallacy. -- Alan Peakall 18:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I was wondering, is da:Billede:Cetina-omis-croatia.jpg fair use or public domain or what? I'd like to make a page about Omiš on en.wiki and copy it there... --Shallot 20:41, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Sorry for deleting one of your votes on Article of the Week, don't know how that happened! TPK 14:43, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I see a vote signed by you under that image, but there is no indication of Support or Oppose. Since the voting is "tight" on that one, I'd like to see as many votes as possible one way or the other! Thanks! - Bevo 03:08, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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The pictures seem to have turned out quite well. - SimonP 22:22, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)

Yes that is the church. - SimonP 23:59, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)

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Speaking of your pictures, for some reason I can't see any of them, and after I go to a page that has one of your pictures, I cant see any pictures of any kind unless I open IE again. I really find that odd. Earl Andrew 18:40, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The picture on your user page works, but the others just pretend their downloading. I'll try a different computer to see if they work. Thanks anyways. Earl Andrew 20:20, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Instead of just taking out that paragraph (which happens to be true for most pre-industrial societies most of the time) on the Hobbesian nature of pre-industrial society you could have added another one qualifying it and stating the nature of the exceptions or you could have done an amalgalm. Right now, you have just impoverished Wikipedia. If you do not have the time to explain why there are or were exceptional pre-industrial societies with regular food surpluses and how they manage (the ones I know about had extensive canal systems and ingenious manpowered equipment in addition to exceptional pre-industrial agricultural techniques) the right thing to do is to put back exactly what you took out. AlainV 06:12, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

There are many debatable issues around industrialisation and around the industrial revolution, which started in England in the 18th century and is still going on around us. But the question of chronic famine and scarcity in pre-indutrial societies is not one of those. Specialists in the History of Technology agree that pre-industrial societies (like the Netherlands in the 17th and 18th centuries, and certain parts of China for certain centuries here and there, and a few others) who managed to beat the cycle of famines were rare exceptions. Like wise, they agree that industrialised economies who have regular famines like present-day North Korea (or Stalinist Russia and a few others) are extremely rare exceptions. If you know economic historians or historians of technology who hold the opposite view please put them in the references, and state their views in the body of the text. And while you are at it please put back the paragraph you have taken out (or rephrase a better one taking into account the nuances which, I agree, are missing from the original) because it represents the view of most (if not all) the specialists in this domain, such as Bernal, Derry, Hobsbawm, Kranzberg, Landes, Pursell (whose references you will find at the bottom of the artcile) and many others. AlainV 05:35, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Someone has posted a legitimate concern about your entry on the Yoko Ono page that you have put the content about the feud bet'n Paul and Yoko without giving any references, so the credibility is questionable. Can you please respond to that. If you have a good reference to that text it would be great if you add a reference link there. Please respond to this on the Talk:Yoko Ono page. Spundun 22:07, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Something seems to have gone radically wrong after your edits to this and the last part of the article has fallen off the cyber cliff! As a newbie I am guessing that the article reached the limit and dropped the end. That means the reorganisation I discussed in the talk page is now critical. I have been able to add the end of the older version to your current version but the whole article will need to be split pretty soon. --CloudSurfer 08:38, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I am starting to get an idea of the way things work here now. The 32K limit is obviously notional and not a real restriction. Given that, I am less interested in breaking up the article. There are many articles that exceed this arbitrary limit and suicide might as well be one of them. There must have been some glitch to drop the last part of the article so I wouldn't worry about it. I guess it points out that it is worth checking the entire article to make sure it looks OK. All the best.--CloudSurfer 20:14, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I came across this article on "How to edit an article so long that you can't edit". It explains how some browsers truncate long articles which may well have been what happened to you. It goes on to say how you should upgrade your browser. Hope this works for you. --CloudSurfer 18:30, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

It seems the article comitted suicide Rich Farmbrough

YOu have uploaded some great photos "released under GNU". Is this [[GFDL}}? If so I'll tag them as such. Thanks. Rich Farmbrough 15:42, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC) OK I've done what I can find (I thought there were more), including some fair use and noncommercial but there are some queries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:K%F8gebyvaaben.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Swissair-md11-hb-iwp.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Habsburg_Flag.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Afr.jpg (I have labelled this Public Domain, but I'm not sure.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Schildoh.png

As you probably know, noncommercial pix will not make the cut for the Mandrake distro of wikipedia, and will in time need replacing.

Rgds, Rich Farmbrough 09:41, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the Furlow/Thornhill Psychology Today article on female orgasm, mentioning Gould's thesis that the clitoris (and by extension, its function) are vestigial. xoddam

and the edit citing references on orgasm. "Weasel words"! Hmph ;-) xoddam 23:58, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It's the weirdest thing. I am new to Wikipedia, but find it very cool and have been browsing around and even made a few edits here and there, mostly minor ones. So today I decided to click on a username, just to see what would happen.

Since I work for Peregrine Systems, I somehow decided to click on your name, Peregrine981, and found... Someone who has lived in both Canada and Denmark - just like me. We even both lived in Ottawa! What are the chances of that?? You haven't also lived in the UK, have you? :)

Anyway, I just wanted to say Hi! :)

Speaking of which, I made some minor edits to your Old Ottawa South article. I suspect we're both residents. I'm on Glen. User:Paul From Ottawa

-- amertner 21:53, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If you nominate or vote for an article, this is taken as a commitment to contribute to it This fortnight, the Second Sudanese Civil War is the CSB collaboration of the fortnight.- Xed 08:34, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi, just noticed your work on the Andong city article. Nice job!

I'm a fellow expat EFL teacher, living way out in the sticks in Mungyeong-si. I'd like to bring all the S. Korean city/county articles up to the standard you've done for Andong (or maybe even higher). I hope our paths will cross again.

Cheers,

Visviva 15:16, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hello, how are things in Korea? Are you still interested in redesigning the main page of Countering systemic bias? I think a redesign would be a great idea. Personally I feel the focus of the page should be much more on what can be done to correct CSB. I also feel that the various areas in which systemic bias exists are different enough that it might be a good idea to have subpages for each of the major ones. E.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias - geography could include a discussion of the cause of the geographical bias, an analysis of its extent, proposed solutions, and a list of open tasks. - SimonP 16:13, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

I agree with your ideas but I understand your hesitation. CSB seems to be plagued by interpersonal disputes, which adds an extra layer of difficulty to everything.

One thing I did the other day was compare the relative coverage of Canada and Nigeria in Wikipedia to other encyclopedias. Wikipedia had 27 times as many article that mentioned Canada as Nigeria. Encarta has a 19 to 1 ratio, for Columbia it was 12 to 1 and for Britannica it was 5 to 1. Category:Nigeria and its sub-categories has 98 articles. For Category:Canada the number is too high to count but is certainly several thousand. - SimonP 04:27, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

A test page would be a good place to start. - SimonP 04:37, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

I started a test CSB geography sub-page at User:SimonP/Geography.

Good improvements to the geography page. It is still not perfect but I am fine with others seeing it. - SimonP 15:55, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Is the Geography section a new section or a replacement for 'Developing World'? Or should they be merged? Is the top list going to replace the bottom list on CSB? I'm confused. - Xed 14:10, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Hi again,

I've put up a very rough draft of a WikiProject page to work on South Korean cities & counties: Wikipedia:WikiProject South Korean counties and cities. Please drop by, and feel free (of course) to monkey with it. Any help you can give is much appreciated. --Visviva 16:44, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the note on the controversy. The evidence seems to favor "bog body" as the more technical description, but both terms clearly refer to the same thing. In fact I hadn't heard the "bog people" term until this recent merge... by joining the two perhaps you have united two separate lines of research! --Pontifex 18:22, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

I updated that aerial photo to include a link to its original site.. also, I added one of those template things to the Halifax page, and in the process I accidentally deleted the Argyle street pic. I'm assuming that was yours, so if you want to put it back on feel free to do so. -Alexk001