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As a new editor I was losing faith over the value of Wikipedia based on the discussions at Griffin talk. I was pretty much disgusted with the failure to follow BLP policy. Your diligence in evaluating the RfC has renewed my faith in the editing process. Thank-you.--[[User:Pekay2|Pekay2]] ([[User talk:Pekay2|talk]]) 22:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
As a new editor I was losing faith over the value of Wikipedia based on the discussions at Griffin talk. I was pretty much disgusted with the failure to follow BLP policy. Your diligence in evaluating the RfC has renewed my faith in the editing process. Thank-you.--[[User:Pekay2|Pekay2]] ([[User talk:Pekay2|talk]]) 22:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

== Close at Griffin article ==

Hi Nyttend. I don't know how much you reviewed the talk page before you made your close, but the article has been fiercely contested, and has been protected twice for edit warring. I've been trying to move us through DR by making bite-sized efforts. We were able to agree to change the infobox and got that implemented through an edit request. The next step was addressing the first sentence - just the first sentence. I didn't agree with your close, and to be honest I don't think it was fair to the "yes", which definitely had more !votes and is the side that I think best reflects BLPFRINGE (and conspiracy theories are definitely fringe matters, and the policy that deals with fringe matter is PSCI). However I wasn't going to question it - I could live with taking "conspiracy theorist" out of the lead. But your edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G._Edward_Griffin&diff=645452702&oldid=644940434 implementing the close] rewrote the entire lead.

This is not what the RfC was about, and I don't see how you can say that the RfC nor its discussion supported that broad edit.

I would appreciate it if you would reel back your implementing edit to the first sentence - simply removing "conspiracy theorist" from the lead. Other people may want to create drama around that, but I don't.

My plan for the next step in DR is actually to address the rest of the lead, to get that settled. If other people have issues after that, they can handle them as they like.

Please let me know your thoughts on scaling back your edit to fit with the scope of the RfC. Thanks. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 23:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:33, 3 February 2015

"You have new messages" was designed for a purpose: letting people know you have replied to them. I do not watch your talk page and I will likely IGNORE your reply if it is not copied to my page, as I will not be aware that you replied! Thank you.

I'm an idiot

I just accidentally recreated Category:Streets in San Antonio, Texas that you closed per my nomination a couple minutes ago. Can you re-delete that for me or do I need to formally nominate if for speedy deletion? RevelationDirect (talk) 00:26, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!RevelationDirect (talk) 00:29, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Dear Nyttend,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
From a fellow editor,
--FWiW Bzuk (talk)

This message promotes WikiLove. Originally created by Nahnah4 (see "invisible note").

Provinces of ISIL

I don't recollect you being involved before on this topic. Must we can go through yet another deletion debate, or accept that a template with an English version of the name and substantially the same content is the same as a template with the Arabic word for Province? Legacypac (talk) 03:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year Nyttend!

I put this up for CSD, because the text of the draft text is identical to the content of the similarly named template.

It was pointed out that the Template (which I boldy moved) was serving as a Common passage. Owing to limitations in mediwiki you can't as I understood directly transclude pages. The intention in the move was that the content in the Draft would eventually become an article. I had subst the uses of the template, but was reverted.

I've compared the text and references, and can't find any susbstantial differences between the actual content of the Temmplate (minus process tags) and the Draft (again discounting process tags.).

Given what the other contributors to the talk page and the creator of the Template have said, I don't see any objection to removing what is now in effect a duplicate. If you feel it isn't speedy, then maybe it's time for an MfD? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge 2 almost same reports

I think you should merge this report :Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive267#Legal threat with this recent one, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Legal threats at Satyananda Saraswati. Placing both in ANI would work. Bladesmulti (talk) 06:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Killing of Dave Owen Ward

You mentioned switching your vote to keep if a second reliable source was found for the Killing of Dave Oren Ward article.

Here it is from July 1999 in The Advocate:

https://books.google.com/books?id=qWQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=dave+oren+ward+los+angeles+times&source=bl&ots=kGnC1adEik&sig=ZQT6ZBnneNQq9prqZzmIiaPfe9o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3ZunVIbfDYLYoATX7YKYBw&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=dave%20oren%20ward%20los%20angeles%20times&f=false

Thanks. Neptune's Trident (talk) 08:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shawn Oakman

What in the world are you doing? Why would you you delete it? Please undo the deletion, because there is no justification for the move.--Yankees10 00:38, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

College football players can be notable as long as they pass GNG, which a simple google search along with the references that were on the article, suggests Oakman does. This is not under any circumstance, a candidate for speedy deletion. So please, undelete it and nominate for deletion if you wish. Otherwise this screams you abusing your admin powers.--Yankees10 00:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The sources were provided already. Undelete the article, nominate it for deletion and see what others think. I'm honestly considering reporting you, because this is ridiculous. What gives you the right to decide alone who gets an article and who doesn't?--Yankees10 01:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] This is PLENTY of sources to pass GNG. What are you not getting here? And no admins certainly do not just delete articles with this amount of sources without a discussion first.--Yankees10 01:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So based on your rationalization, no college football players are notable. Because guess what, this is the exactl coverage every single college football player with an article gets. I cannot believe your stubbornness to not just un-delete the article and AFD. Even if you do not believe he is notable, there is enough coverage here for others to help decide. There is not one logical reason why you are the lone person here to make this decision.--Yankees10 01:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That is simply not true. If a player has enough coverage to pass GNG they are most certainly notable enough for an article under most circumstances.--Yankees10 02:05, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, i'm done. It's clear you have no intention of reverting the deletion. NEVER have I encountered a case like this on Wikipedia where the admin is this unbelievably stubborn and has show this much abuse of his "powers". This is not your own personal encyclopedia, nowhere does it give you the right to decide who and who doesn't deserve to have an article. This was not a short one-sentence article, nor was it vandalism in which the deletion would be 100% justified. This was an decently sized article with sources provided, created by a user with both a long tenure here on Wikipedia and a lengthy history of creating articles. I'll repeat again, an AFD would have been the most logical choice to handle a deletion. I cannot fathom why one would believe this is would not be the best course of action. Just because I couldn't find these sources you seemed to be looking for, doesn't mean they don't exist. An AFD would clearly allow others to help find these.--Yankees10 02:33, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, I'd be interested to hear how this article was possibly a candidate for CSD A7? Yes he's non-notable, but importance was implied. "It is irrelevant whether the claim of notability within the article is not sufficient for the notability guidelines. If the claim is credible, the A7 tag can not be applied." @Yankees10:. GiantSnowman 10:24, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not being notable is not the same as not indicating importance, as A7 makes very clear - "it is irrelevant whether the claim of notability within the article is not sufficient for the notability guidelines. If the claim is credible, the A7 tag can not be applied." GiantSnowman 17:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the deletion and move. BMK (talk) 01:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Shawn Oakman

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Shawn Oakman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Yankees10 02:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actual deletions not carried out

Hi.

It appears you have closed the TfD of {{Sectionlink}} and {{Link section}} with delete but have not carried out the actual deletion.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that kind of problem looks like my line of work. I'll take a look.
In the mean time, there is a {{Being deleted}} tag.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 02:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, this could take a while but we are definitely way past the point no return. You can delete its documentation and other subpages if you wish. Actually, please do; the less noise I have on my dashboard, the better.
I will tackle the article namespace first, where the work is most delicate and complex. (Believe me.) Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 03:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Athletics in Pakistan

Thank you for undoing my speedy tag with this edit: I grossly misread the tag's meaning, and tagging that article was a mistake. My apologies, and happy editing! Sock (tock talk) 12:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andcarr

I think Andcarr (talk · contribs), whom you recently blocked for disruption at David Ross (businessman), may now be editing while logged out and thus evading their block. - Sitush (talk) 12:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sitush paranoia has caused Andcarr to be unfairly blocked for another two days. Judge jury and executioner. (Saskia2309 (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Orphaned talk pages

Here is a set of talk pages that were made by user:Ser Amantio di Nicolao to add the nrhp wikiproject at about the same time that you were moving the articles to user space. Now they are talk pages with no articles. I bumped into them going through the unassessed NRHP articles list. What is the best way to clean that up? Move the talk page as well? Ask for deletion?

Thanks. Generic1139 (talk) 20:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Not a reason for deletion"

Hey; I nominated File:GoogleInfobox.tiff for deletion, with the rationale that "The Wikipedia namespace is not a valid place to use non-free images", and you declined it stating that this was an invalid rationale. The WP:NFCC policy notes that "Non-free content is allowed only in articles (not disambiguation pages), and only in article namespace", and that non-free images must be used in at least one article, so I'm curious as to why its exclusive use in the Wikipedia namespace is not a valid reason for deletion. As you note, the image says it's to be used to illustrate an article, and it was - but I removed that inclusion because I felt that it constituted an unacceptable conflict of interest on the part of the inserter, so.. Ironholds (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would disagree that it's a conflict of interest case. If he's willing to be a subject to show what it looks like in the Knowledge Graph article, why not include it? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Because we could include, say, a KG entry of someone dead perfectly trivially and avoid any worries here? My worry is simply (and I appreciate that this is not what the user intends) that the inclusion of the image can constitute exactly the same thing as KnowledgeGraph's existence constitutes - an additional venue and driver for traffic. In that case we should absolutely avoid signing off on personX deciding that personX should exclusively benefit from this traffic. Pick Sartre or de Beauvoir or JSM or someone similarly shuffled off this mortal coil. Ironholds (talk) 18:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Non free?? Help Please

SO, I got the little message about a possibly unfree file for a piece of coal scrip at Killarney, West Virginia...I responded and since the town and the maker of the scrip have disappeared since the 50's.......it would be great if another human being could take a peek..... [here]. I did indeed perform a patent search, SURPRISE...none to be found...Coal town guy (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the input, I have posted the results of a thorough copy right and patent search for the item after 10 powered loup inspectionCoal town guy (talk) 23:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate your help, it is now on commons, and wanted to say thanks...Sadly my knee will possibly be deleted, walking, a long time hobby of mine..Coal town guy (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:FraudBustersTeam

User:FraudBustersTeam requested an unblock on UTRS. Are you okay with me unblocking the account, under the conditions that it's renamed to User:Treestop999 and only one individual will use it, the rest needing to create their own? Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nyttend. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— —Anne Delong (talk) 00:31, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. On the 5th, you deleted Template:Sectionlink after some discussion. That template allowed convenient linking to a section of an article from its Talk page, and I’m not aware of any similar template (despite some claiming redundancy). Am I mistaken? Or would you consider reinstating the template (or possibly merging its Talk page functionality with {{section link}})? Thank you. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:21, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I got the impression from the TFDs that sectionlink, and the other templates too, were rather redundant to section link. I'm not familiar with any of them, partly as I link sections with the basic text, e.g. Kenyon College#Traditions, and not with a template. You'll note that all of the relevant titles were recreated as redirects after you left this message, so it's possible that the problem's no longer a problem. I'm sorry if this message isn't helpful; I'm basically trying to say "I don't know the answer to your question". Nyttend (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 January 10. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 174.141.182.82 (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your note post-AN3

I think that this is brilliant. I wish I could explain things like that. - Sitush (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dates in citations

Indeed, if someone cites The Story of the Jews: Finding the Words: 1000 BC-1492 AD, the era designation should not be changed to BCE and CE, but this isn't because it's a citation, it's because it's a title. But if one were citing Trajan's Column one would be free to give the publication (that is, completion) date as AD 113, rather than presenting the date as it appears in the original: "IMP·CAESARI·DIVI·NERVAE·F·NERVAE TRAIANO·AVG·GERM·DACICO·PONTIF MAXIMO·TRIB·POT·XVII·IMP·VI·COS·VI·P·P" Jc3s5h (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your question:

Thanks for the clarification. However, I'm not yet completely clear. Take an imaginary example, <ref>Scribe, Unknown. Ancient Text. Sumer: Scribes Incorporated, 1999 BC.</ref> Are you addressing a situation where someone changes 1999 BC to 1999 BCE? Nyttend backup (talk) 17:06, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I am addressing the question of someone changing 1999 BC to 1999 BCE. Of course, the original author would not have dated a publication 1999 BC. But a modern reproduction might contain an introduction that gives the publication date as "1999 BC". The original year is sometimes given in citations (if using templates, |origyear= can be used). Your edit would suggest that the original year would have to be written as "1999 BC" in Wikipedia because that's how it's given in the publication. But in fact, publication dates follow the citation style of the article, not the format contained in the publication being cited. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which way this week?

Per this diff, why is it that this week we are putting city and state in different links instead of just one link? Seems like this is always getting switched back and forth. Did the guidelines change, or what? (Always curious to know what's behind thewikignoming...) Just curious, Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 10:54, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nyttend. You have new messages at Montanabw's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

And I usually DO watchlist people's talk if I've posted there, so OK to reply here as well. Montanabw(talk) 19:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no official policy. Since policy follows process and grows out of common practice, it indeed is important to see what we generally do in this kind of situation. Nyttend (talk) 21:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And a different editor is editing a bunch of articles in precisely the opposite direction. So, is there any guideline one way or the other or is this just an ongoing edit war? Montanabw(talk) 00:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The other editor is editing against community practice. Some people just focus on creating the Wikipedia:Manual of Style to shape their whims of what should be; the problem with so many of these people is that they dream up rules at variance with what the community actually does, and when ordinary editors object, they attempt to take the high ground of "this is what the Manual of Style says". Never mind that they're a small subset of the community; never mind that community standards flow from community practice; never mind that their rules don't even match real life in many ways (e.g. the thoroughly unhelpful insistence on dashes instead of hyphens; I was in my final year of grad school when I first encountered a book that followed WP:MOS standards on those) — they develop the style, and everyone else must follow it. I prefer to focus on writing an encyclopedia for the readers, not for those obsessed with WP:MOS. Nyttend (talk) 03:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, on one hand, I agree that the MOS is a POV-pushing battleground. However, I really think that your style if overlinking. Anyone wanting to learn about the state of New York from a link to New York City, can click a second link. And the links to the city articles should all name the state and the nation, so United States is totally unneeded. Seems something not worth edit-warring over, but I really don't like a sea of blue, and for me, I really hate consecutive blue links to different articles, my eyes are not as young as they once were. JMO Montanabw(talk) 00:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing this is in New Galilee (the potato place), rather than New Caliliee, Pennsylvania as is written on the card. Any input? Smallbones(smalltalk) 13:54, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. One additional piece of info, at the top of the gable on the postcard is a painted inscription (?) "1st UP Church built 1870" The guy who wrote the info on the bottom of the postcard obviously wasn't very careful. Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:20, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jasper Hill Farm

You recently deleted our organization's page, and I'm not sure why. Could you help me understand and/or please reinstate the page? There are many, many secondary sources available to support the notability of our organization, as per Wikipedia requirements. I'm more than happy to provide you with a list of these. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mollybrowne1981 (talkcontribs) 15:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Literally the only contents were Jasper Hill Farm is an artisan cheesemaker in Greensboro, Vermont. It is run by Andy and Mateo Kehler. That's nowhere near enough for an article; authors have to show that organisations are at least somewhat significant. If you want to do this, you have two choices: either you can start from scratch, or I can restore it and userfy it, i.e. moving it to a page in your userspace. I don't care which one you pick, but I'll be happy to help either way. Nyttend (talk) 15:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move review

There is currently a discussion at WP:MR to which you may be associated with. The thread can be found here. Thanks. Qxukhgiels (talk) 22:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

requesting closure for AfDs

I have been using WP:AN for AfD closures for at least 2 years now. Has the policy now changed? LibStar (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Blinken

Thanks for your help previously with the Tony Blinken page. I've finally had a chance to make some revisions to the Career section, and include better sourcing for that part of his bio. Would you mind taking a look over at Talk:Tony Blinken? Thanks again for all your help in this process! (Bgluckman (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC))[reply]

File:Equipa que venceu UEFA Cup Winners' Cup em 1964.png

So why does this page display the photo as copyrighted ("Foto Direitos reservados")? SLBedit (talk) 02:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At first it doesn't like the same photo (slight different angle and black and white) but if you notice the person at left, behind the team, it tells the photo or screenshot was took at the same time. Very suspicious. The photo/screenshot was also uploaded by a user that uploaded multiple files deleted for copyright violation in Wikimedia Commons. Also suspicious. Please see commons:User talk:Lulzone. SLBedit (talk) 00:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have found another copyrighted image uploaded by Lulzone. SLBedit (talk) 00:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but the photo's date is unknown. If date is unknown how can we find out? If the user took the photo, user should have added it, right? SLBedit (talk) 00:26, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. My bet is that it is a scan from a book which isn't in the public domain. Only if I knew which book is... SLBedit (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have found the exactly same photo. The website says it's from the "Archiv". Their archive? SLBedit (talk) 01:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nyttend, regarding your edit, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Later Sui Empire and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Later Sui Empire for evidence. The same user has been repeatedly creating the hoax article with phoney sources. There is no such thing as the Later Sui Empire. -Zanhe (talk) 04:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for acting so quickly! Have a good weekend. -Zanhe (talk) 05:40, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Municipalities in Washington County

I've got several in process, I'll update your list and the map when I've got them all uploaded in another day or so. I think it includes McDonald, Midway, Smith, Mt Pleasant, Green Hills, Ellsworth, Cokeburg. Generic1139 (talk) 00:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We seem to be colliding on the Washington map, but at least the one I loaded over yours is the same and both are correct. We had a regression error back in December. Generic1139 (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Re: File:Allegheny PA municipalities without photos.png You used your map from Dec 2 2014 as the base for your removal of McDonald on Jan 28 2015, overwriting and losing the information from my removal of six uploaded on Dec 9. As this is a project in your user space, I'm happy to let you maintain the maps. Let me know how you'd like to handle this in the future. Generic1139 (talk) 15:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Screenshot FFDs

Would you please consider reversing your closure of those screenshot FFDs? I don't think your suggestion of taking them to NFCR instead is the best here: based on the experience of hundreds of earlier cases of episode screenshots, the only thing that can cause this kind of item to be kept is if somebody brings forward an individual case about why a specific image is actually needed. The whole point of NFC enforcement for TV images is that they have to be looked at individually, if they are to be kept. That's why a lump nomination at NFCR would be of little use; once anybody were to start defending some item or other, it would have to be split up again anyway. On the other hand, the fact that the nominations are all alike doesn't make them invalid: they all point to the same problem, the absence of an individualized justification; that problem can indeed be validly stated in identical words. Fut.Perf. 10:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the best route. Having decided that these need to go, the nominator has decided to enforce his decision by making it much harder for people to participate. This is especially insidious because several of them are used in featured articles — you'd never know this from the identical nominations, so the nominator either hasn't considered or has considered but didn't bother to mention the fact that FAs cannot be promoted with copyright problems. Quite clearly the nominator's attempting to get all of these deleted as a batch, so the only way to do that while being fair to would-be participants is to get them all considered together as a batch nomination. I'm not opposed to allowing people to look at them individually, but that's not going to be practical unless we have just one or a few at FFD at any given time. Perhaps I suggested the wrong place; I thought NFCR was for when people are trying to decide whether a certain class of image is appropriate. Please take these to such a page, if you feel like doing it yourself, or suggest to me such a place, so I can correct my closure rationale. Finally, be aware that I'll be on the road most of today (it's just dawn now, and I'll not be back online until after sunset), so I cannot quickly respond to anything you say. Nyttend (talk) 12:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Undeletion Please the "Later Sui Empire (dominating usurp during 1418-1644)"

The article is new build version which I do develop and different form former similiar version of it. This version is not mangled, not vandal and not Hoax. Because, the article uses authentic text and legal books as listed at the article references section. The chinese used there can be read at online ctext.org which legally title of document. Why do the deletion? Please restore and undelete the page if you can?

ADHZ07111989 (talk) 14:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Spam blacklist

Just a heads up: I presume that you meant to blacklist with a \b in front, I have added two missing b's (though I don't think that this broke anything, it likely did not work). Can you please check this? Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:47, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Borer's gender

A very belted response to your comment; I've added the male pronoun "he". A better solution would be a gender indicator in the infobox, which could be populated from Wikidata. See the infobox on my user page for how it could appear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:58, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Case review

"Fact-finding point 1.1 in the original case makes it clear, even for those who don't remember the original case, that the case arose from disputes over whether articles should have infoboxes." - Well, not so clear, the case arose from too many infoboxes being reverted without a dispute (about 60, I made a list). Project opera introduced an infobox for operas then (including a self-portrait of the designer at the bottom), which didn't find approval by some members, leading to disputes such as Rigoletto (archived). All this could be history as you see. - Fact-finding stayed limited, example pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nyttend. I see that you de-listed [9] this user from WP:UAA. If you look through the userpage, this refers to a group of people, not the single deceased subject. I think this still qualifies as WP:GROUPNAME and WP:ISU. --Drm310 (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Pennsylvania photo help?

Sure, I'd love to help where I can! I've been meaning to do this kind of thing more anyway, and some of the infobox photos for Lehigh Valley municipalities have come from me already, such as Williams Township, Forks Township and Nazareth, Pennsylvania. I can primarily help in Lehigh and Northampton counties, though when I go to other nearby counties in the state I'll keep an eye on the list of municipalities lacking photos. I'm not sure the next time I'll be around the 9 Northampton County towns or 1 Lehigh County town on that list, but next time I am, I'll take some photos for sure. I think trying to get one photo for each municipality statewide is an excellent initiative and I'm glad you're taking it on! — Hunter Kahn 22:07, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My G4 request for this category was based on the hatnote located at Category:Wikipedians interested in music that such categories will be speedily deleted for any music artist not just ones from that original discussion in 2007. Thanks. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Removing a speedy deletion on article

Hi I'm Peachywink the person who tagged the article Got7 awards and nominations for deletion. The page has since been wiped clean by other users and redirects now to the main Got7 article. Anyways when you deleted the tag for speedy deletion you asked a question in your edit summary. "Do you seriously think that this revision, after all the edits this page has gotten, is identical to anything previously deleted?" Firstly, the actual Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion that it was being it was being deleted under, G4, states the page only need be a sufficiently identical and unimproved copy. The new article had changed none of the reasons the article before was deleted, the only difference I could find was the info box was only half finished this time. Most of the edits done on the page were not done to improve the page but were mostly edit wars. The article did not ammend any of the resons it was deleted before so I do feel it was in essence identical to the previous page. But if you disagree don't worry, this was the third time this month this page has been removed, and I'm sure it will be back again. Thank you.Peachywink (talk) 23:13, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for replying, I am actually a fairly new editor so I am still learning some things. After reading your reply and thinking about it I realize what I had thought of before as being deletes was actually other editors removing everything on the page and inserting a redirect to the main article. Which they probably felt they had to do since the editors wanting to keep the page never use talk. So the article keeps getting blanked and redirected not deleted. Next time it shows up I'll submit it for first deletion. Thank you!Peachywink (talk) 01:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

revdel needed

I looked at ANI for a currently active admin and I saw you.

Can you please revdel personal information brought to the Wright brothers talk page by Special:Contributions/70.83.24.148? The IP might need to be blocked as well. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 03:54, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, why are you blocked me?

Who say the article is hoax?

Later Sui Empire (dominating usurp during 1418-1644) is new developed. The article is new build version which I do develop and different form former similiar version of it. This version is not mangled, not vandal and not Hoax. Because, the article uses authentic text and legal books as listed at the article references section. The chinese used there can be read at online ctext.org which legally title of document. Why do the deletion? Please restore and undelete the page. And why do you blocked me? ADHZ07111989 (talk) 12:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will you give me permission to re create the article “Later Sui Empire (dominating usurp during 1418-1644)”? Or maybe please help me build the article ”Later Sui Empire (dominating usurp during 1418-1644)”?

Attention please. The references for Later Sui Empire are:

References

   *Dragon Tales: China’s History from Tang to Qing. Singapore: Singapore: Asiapac Books. 2006.
   *梁惠王章句上 page 6
   *西遊記 part 朱紫國唐僧論前世 孫行者施為三折肱
   *廣韻 Part 上平聲 Bab 支 Lineage 隨
   *廣韻 part 上平聲 Domain 脂 Title 伊
   *太平御覽,人事部五十六,《孝女》
   *《草木四》 Part 《叙牡丹》 Page 1
   *之 Part 葘
   *Dragon Tales: China’s History from Tang to Qing. Singapore: Singapore: Asiapac Books. 2006.
   *Dragon Tales: China’s History from Tang to Qing. Singapore: Singapore: Asiapac Books. 2006.
   Hawley, Samuel (2005). The Imjin War. Japan's Sixteenth-Century Invasion of Korea and Attempt to Conquer China. Seoul: The Royal Asiatic Society, Korea Branch. pp. 195f. ISBN 89-954424-2-5.
   Turnbull, Stephen (2002). Samurai Invasion. Japan’s Korean War 1592–98. London: Cassell & Co. p. 244. ISBN 0-304-35948-3.
   Roh, Young-koo (2004). "Yi Sun-shin, an Admiral Who Became a Myth". The Review of Korean Studies 7 (3): 13.
   *鬼三十五 Part 《浮梁張令》
   *Dragon Tales: China’s History from Tang to Qing. Singapore: Singapore: Asiapac Books. 2006.

The online version of references can you read at ctext.org, as follow:

   *梁惠王章句上 page 6

夫,音扶。浡,音勃。由當作猶,古字借用。後多放此。周七八月,夏五六月也。油然,雲盛貌。沛然,雨盛貌。浡然,興起貌。禦,禁止也。人牧,謂牧民之君也。領,頸也。蓋好生惡死,人心所同。故人君不嗜殺人,則天下悅而歸之。蘇氏曰:「孟子之言,非苟為大而已。然不深原其意而詳究其實,未有不以為迂者矣。予觀孟子以來,自漢高祖及光武及唐太宗及我太祖皇帝,能一天下者四君,皆以不嗜殺人致之。其餘殺人愈多而天下愈亂。秦晉及隋,力能合之,而好殺不已,故或合而復分,或遂以亡國。孟子之言,豈偶然而已哉?

   *西遊記 part 朱紫國唐僧論前世 孫行者施為三折肱

三皇治世,五帝分倫。堯舜正位,禹湯安民。成周子眾,各立乾坤。倚強欺弱,分國稱君。邦君十八,分野邊塵。後成十二,宇宙安淳。因無車馬,卻又相吞。七雄爭勝,六國歸秦。天生魯沛,各懷不仁。江山屬漢,約法欽遵。漢歸司馬,晉又紛紜。南北十二,宋齊梁陳。列祖相繼,大隋紹真。賞花無道,塗炭多民。我王李氏,國號唐君。高祖晏駕,當今世民。河清海晏,大德寬仁。茲因長安城北,有個怪水龍神,刻減甘雨,應該損身。夜間託夢,告王救迍。王言准赦,早召賢臣。款留殿內,慢把棋輪。時當日午,那賢臣夢斬龍身。

   *廣韻 Part 上平聲 Bab 支 Lineage 隨

隨:隨:從也,順也,又姓風俗通云隋侯之後漢有博土隨何後漢有扶風隨蕃。旬爲切,三。隨:隋:國名本作隨。《左傳》云:漢東之國隨爲大漢初爲縣後魏爲郡又改爲州隋文帝去辵

   *廣韻 part 上平聲 Domain 脂 Title 伊

伊:伊:惟也,因也,侯也,亦水名又州本伊吾廬地在燉煌之北大磧之外秦末有之漢爲伊吾屯隋爲郡貞觀初慕化内附置伊州焉又姓伊尹之後今山陽人。於脂切,五。

   *太平御覽,人事部五十六,《孝女》

孝女: 《唐書》曰:劉寂妻夏侯氏,滑州胙城人,字碎金。父長云,為鹽城縣丞,因疾喪明。碎金遂求離其夫,以終侍養。經十五年,兼事后母,以至孝聞。及父卒,毀瘠殆不勝喪,被發徒跣,負土成墳,廬於墓側,每日一食,如此者積年。貞觀中,有制表其門閭,賜以粟帛。 又曰:于敏直妻張氏,營州都督、皖城公儉之女也。數歲時父母微有疾,即觀察顏色,不離左右,晝夜省侍,宛若成人。及稍成長,恭順彌甚。適延壽公于欽明子敏直。初聞儉有疾,便即號勇自傷,期於必死。儉卒后,凶問至,號哭一慟而絕。高宗下詔,賜物百段,仍令史官編錄之。 又曰:楊紹宗妻王氏,華州華陰人也。初年三歲,所生母亡,吻繼母鞠養。至年十五,父又征遼而沒。繼母尋亦卒。王乃收所生母及繼母尸柩,并立父形像,招魂遷葬訖,又廬於墓側,陪其祖母及父墳。永徽中,詔曰:「故楊紹宗妻王氏,因心為孝,率性成道。年迫桑榆,筋力衰謝。以往在隋朝,父沒遼左,招魂遷葬,負土成墳,又葬其祖父母等,竭此老年,親加板筑。痛結晨昏,哀感行路。永言志行,嘉尚良腎攏宜標其門閭,用旌敏德。」賜物三十段、粟五十碩。 又曰:孝女賈氏,濮州鄄城人也。始年十五,其父為宗人玄基所害。其弟強仁年幼,賈氏撫育之,誓以不嫁。及強仁成童,思共報復,乃候玄基殺之,取其心肝,以祭父墓。遣強仁自列於縣,有司斷以極刑。賈詣闕自陳己為,請代強仁死。高宗哀之,特制賈氏及強仁免罪,移其家於洛陽。 又曰:汴州李氏孝女,年八歲,父卒,柩殯在堂十餘載,每日哭泣無限。及年長,母欲嫁之,遂截發自誓,請在家終養。及喪母,號毀殆至滅性。家無丈夫,自營棺槨,州里欽其至孝,送葬者千餘人。葬畢,廬於墓側,蓬頭跣足,負土成墳,手植松柏數百株。季昶列上其狀,制特表其閭,賜以粟帛。

   *《草木四》 Part 《叙牡丹》 Page 1

牡丹花,世謂近有。盖以隋末文士集中。無牡丹謌詩。則楊子華有晝牡丹處極分明。子華北齊人,則知牡丹花亦已久矣。出尚書故實又謝康樂集。亦言竹間水際多牡丹。而隋朝種植法七十餘卷中。不說牡丹者,則隋朝花藥中所無也。出酉陽雜爼

   *之 Part 葘

夔:夔龍亦州名春秋時魚國漢爲魚復縣梁隋皆爲巴東郡唐初改爲信州又改爲夔州取夔國名之又獸名似牛一足無角其音如雷皮可以冒鼓。

   *鬼三十五 Part 《浮梁張令》

頃為隋朝權臣一奏。遂謫居此峯。爾何德於予,欲陷吾為寒山之叟乎。令哀祈愈切。仙官神色甚怒。俄有使者,齎一函而至,則金天王之書扎也。仙官覽書,笑曰。關節既到,難為不應。召使者反報,曰。莫又為上帝譴責否。乃啟玉函,書一通,焚香再拜以遣之。凡食頃。天符"符"原作"府",據明鈔本改。乃降。其上署徹字。仙官復焚香再拜以啟之,云。張某棄背祖宗,竊假名位。不顧禮法。苟竊官榮。而又鄙僻多藏,詭詐無實。百里之任,已是叨居;千乘之富。今因苟得。令按罪已實。待戮餘魂。何為奏章,求延厥命。但以扶危拯溺者,大道所尚;紓刑宥過者,玄門是宗。狥爾一甿。我"我"原作"俄",據明鈔本改。全弘化,希其悛惡,庶乃自新。貪生者量延五年。奏章者不能無"無"原作"書",據明鈔本改。罪。仙官覽畢,謂令曰。大凡世人之壽。皆可致百歲。而以喜怒哀樂。汨沒心源。愛惡嗜欲,伐生之根。而又揚己之能,掩彼之長,顛倒方寸,頃刻萬變。神倦思怠,難全天和。如彼淡泉。汨於五味。欲致不壞。其可得乎。勉導歸途,無墮吾教。令拜辭。舉首已失所在。復尋舊路,稍覺平易。行十餘里。黃衫吏迎前而賀。令曰。將欲奉報,願知姓字。吏曰。吾姓鍾。生為宣城縣脚力。亡于華陰,遂為幽冥所錄。遞符之役,勞苦如舊。令曰。何以勉執事之困。曰。但酧金天王願曰。請置子為閽人,則吾飽神盤子矣。天符已違半日,難更淹留。便與執事別,入廟南柘林三五步而沒。是夕,張令駐車華陰,決東歸。計酬金天王願,所費數逾二萬,乃語其僕曰。二萬可以贍吾十舍之資糧矣,安可受祉于上帝,而私謁於土偶人乎。明旦,遂東至偃師,止于縣館。見黃衫舊吏,齎牒排闥而進,叱張令曰。何虛妄之若是。今禍至矣。由爾償三峯之願不果。俾吾答一飯之恩無始終。悒悒之懷,如痛毒螫。言訖,失所在。頃刻,張令有疾,留書遺妻子,未訖而終。出《纂異記》

I don't care about any fiction made from the Later Sui II Empire.

Please give me permission to make it or in exchange of that please help me make the article.ADHZ07111989 (talk) 15:34, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And please help me review the pages laterADHZ07111989 (talk) 15:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, we just need a WP:CIR block for this one. Those sources are about the original (and historical) Sui dyntasty, not the later one. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:38, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

County courthouses

Hi. I stumbled upon your project for Kentucky counties and wanted to give you a big a thumbs up. I have a similar project for Missouri counties. It gives me a great excuse to drive about the state on routes I'd never have a reason to otherwise and see some interesting small towns. --Kbh3rdtalk 18:51, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Isis

That was , as you say, before my time here. An interesting case to read about. (no, I don't mind being mentioned as the antithesis) DGG ( talk ) 23:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

County templates

Whoaaaa....slow down on Kansas County templates. Someone already removed the state templates from every city article, so I added this common info to the county templates. I don't understand why that information can't exist in the county templates, because it is related information, unlike if I added "Lists of Fruits" and "List of Vegetable" which are completely unrelated. • SbmeirowTalk11:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the "County navbox" guideline? • SbmeirowTalk13:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you

As a new editor I was losing faith over the value of Wikipedia based on the discussions at Griffin talk. I was pretty much disgusted with the failure to follow BLP policy. Your diligence in evaluating the RfC has renewed my faith in the editing process. Thank-you.--Pekay2 (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Close at Griffin article

Hi Nyttend. I don't know how much you reviewed the talk page before you made your close, but the article has been fiercely contested, and has been protected twice for edit warring. I've been trying to move us through DR by making bite-sized efforts. We were able to agree to change the infobox and got that implemented through an edit request. The next step was addressing the first sentence - just the first sentence. I didn't agree with your close, and to be honest I don't think it was fair to the "yes", which definitely had more !votes and is the side that I think best reflects BLPFRINGE (and conspiracy theories are definitely fringe matters, and the policy that deals with fringe matter is PSCI). However I wasn't going to question it - I could live with taking "conspiracy theorist" out of the lead. But your edit implementing the close rewrote the entire lead.

This is not what the RfC was about, and I don't see how you can say that the RfC nor its discussion supported that broad edit.

I would appreciate it if you would reel back your implementing edit to the first sentence - simply removing "conspiracy theorist" from the lead. Other people may want to create drama around that, but I don't.

My plan for the next step in DR is actually to address the rest of the lead, to get that settled. If other people have issues after that, they can handle them as they like.

Please let me know your thoughts on scaling back your edit to fit with the scope of the RfC. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 23:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]