User talk:Fightloungemike: Difference between revisions

Hello! Fightloungemike, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. An awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us! Sarah (talk) 22:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Paul Daley, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. TreyGeek (talk) 00:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see that these articles splitting the UK nationalities into England and Northern Ireland. Is there a reason for this? The official website only says British (see here). Wikipedia normally shows Nationality based on the sporting body so as an example Eddie Irvine is British (as per F1) were as Rory McIlroy is Northern Irish (as per Golf). So unless you can provide a reliable source for this it will be changed to British. Bjmullan (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article OMMAC 1 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OMMAC 1 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. TreyGeek (talk) 01:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, all eight OMMAC event articles have been nominated for deletion and are combined into the discussion linked to above. --TreyGeek (talk) 01:21, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 12:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Fightloungemike, I have voted on the discussion page as well and have seen your comment, as a Wikipedian you can cast your own vote on the page as well, all you need to is type this first - Keep (which considering your comment I can only imagine you want to keep it) and state your reason for keeping. Now as you can see people in this discussion are using Wikipedia Policies to state their reasons as to why it should/n't remain on here. Now I personally say read both these policies I think matches best with a Keep vote for this particular case, WP:GNG and WP:EVENT. also don't forget to add the four ~ at the end of your vote so everyone knows who voted. Good luck BigzMMA (talk) 09:37, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Calling others morons, on a power trip, stupid, this, power mad, and whatever caused one of your edits to be oversighted are very inappropriate, and you need to stop doing that. Not only has bobody else has been leveling any such similar attacks against you, but attacking others is also against our policy that prohibits personal attacks. Regards, --MuZemike 11:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mike, I would like to say that when it comes to MMA events, I completely agree that as long as there are enough articles on each event it should remain on Wikipedia. Now this has been an issue on here for some time now, with no clear cut answer on the horizon, so that is why we must all come to some answer for it now. I am going to start a debate on this very soon on WT:MMA, so if you want to add it to your watchlist, just wait till I start the debate and put in your opinion on the subject when your ready. Events from promotions ranging from the UFC, PRIDE and Bellator to BAMMA, SFL, Strikeforce and many other notable promotions have been nominated in the past and events now as you seen. Also put these pages in your watchlist as well and keep your eye out for MMA Promotions and Events being nominated to help keep these pages on here , WT:MMANOT, , Talk:Mixed martial arts, Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts#Article Alerts and ofcourse WT:MMA (you may be wondering why there are two comers in the middle, I just looked over the page, and they are at the bottom of your page where it says Category). — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigzMMA (talk • contribs) 10:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bjmullan (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh no...please don't say that - my life just won't be the same and this will be a catalyst for my impending suicide in a months time. Can you live with that on your conscience? Or will the visit of the ghost of Christmas yet to come help you change your ways. --Fightloungemike (talk) 17:58, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Your personal attacks at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OMMAC 1 and now at WP:ANI are unacceptable. "Worms"? We're not on a high school playground here. Please refrain. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• As I stated before, I will no longer say "nasty" things regarding the editors. But I believe they are using underhand tactics to delete my pages. I understand that the majority of you do good things for wikipedia and are busy deleting fabrication and vandalism but my articles don't fall under either and are important to mixed martial arts in the UK and beyond. The editors are making out that all voters of Keep are canvassed and putting "hardly voted or new" next to the names to sway the judgement of others. How do I know they haven't sent each other messages asking for delete votes? As far as I can see, they are not making it fair for people like me to add warranted articles to this website, one that I have loved for many years--Fightloungemike (talk) 19:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But I believe they are using underhand tactics to delete my pages - Will you PLEASE STOP THIS. Bjmullan (talk) 19:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• So I'm now not allowed to say if I think people are voting wrong? Is it a policy of people making pages just to bend over and take it? I'm sorry, but you are acting like the warden on The Shawshank Redemption and I'm Andy Dufresne - alerting people of what you are doing. It's unfair, the pen is mightier than the sword, and as journalist for a website and a magazine that sell around the world, my pen is massive!--Fightloungemike (talk) 19:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bjmullan, if "underhand tactics" is the worst of it, then I think we can stomach that. Mike, you don't seem to understand that there is no "my pages" here--look at the edit screen before you click "Save page". You sign your rights away when you click that button. Yes, you may say that certain opinions are wrong, but you can't make personal insults. No, you're not Andy Dufresne--this is just a website, and no one put you in jail. Your pen is, no doubt, massive, but Wikipedia is a medium written not by any man's (or woman's) phallus, but by the cooperative digital effort of nameless, faceless people who may share only one thing: a dedication to the project and thus a subscription to its guidelines. MMA has rules and so do we. I can't bring a gun to a cage fight, you can't bring a belligerent attitude larded with "worm" insults to the discussion here. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Then why does wikipedia have many people making it unfair for others. If I was a part of the editing team, I wouldn't feel it fair for me to vote on the availability of a page for cars as I know very very little about them. But people are voting non-notable event on OMMAC pages when, in MMA, it is very notable. That does not seem fair does it? --Fightloungemike (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • To cut a long story short, Wikipedia's deletion discussions also depend on editors being able to judge whether sources are reliable or not. Those articles you wrote aren't judged solely on content, but probably more on how they are supported. I don't want to summarize the policy and guidelines--see WP:RS for an overview. I don't know much about fighting (MMA makes me claustrophobic--I'd tap out immediately if I couldn't breathe) but I do know something about the press and the publishing industry. Besides, not being involved with something (which isn't the same as being ignorant) can be quite helpful since it may make one more neutral. BTW, you are part of the editing team, like it or not... Happy days, Drmies (talk) 20:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Why can't all the editors be more like you? I like you, you seem to be a cool guy/girl. I hope they can see that the articles in question are worthy of being on here and if so, I hope to help a lot more with the site with edits, vandalism, new pages etc--Fightloungemike (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Uh, unless you can come up for a good argument for why the page is notable (not just saying it is), I don't think they would believe you. Thekillerpenguin (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Uh, I already have shown why it was notable, people like yourself prefer to not acknowledge the points I made though and want to see others fail--Fightloungemike (talk) 10:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]