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::::Thanks for the ping. Certainly anything is possible. But civilians must not be targeted under [[International Humanitarian Law]] unless the attacker has specific evidence of them taking part in hostilities. Is there evidence that the medic killed at [[Al Rassoul Al Azam Hospital]] was also launching rockets? From what I understand, the devices were fairly regular [[pagers]]; there was nothing specifically military about them. They could be used to communicate with soldiers and civilians alike. Hospital staff in the Middle East (and across the world) use pagers all the time. I agree we don't directly quite unnamed [[WP:PRIMARY]] sources, but when a reliable [[WP:SECONDARY]] source like Al-Jazeera relies on them, we can quote that secondary source's reporting.'''[[User talk:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>(Please [[Template:Ping|ping]] on reply)</sub> 07:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::But there was something specifically military about the exploded pagers: they were ordered and issued by Hezhollah to its members (per a source we cite here, Hezbollah "said 4,000 pagers carried by Hezbollah members exploded"). So it becomes a question of when is a Hezbollah member (not) taking part in hostilities? In some countries every member of Hezbollah is deemed a terrorist, i.e. not a civilian, so the question only makes outside of those countries. [[User:Lklundin|Lklundin]] ([[User talk:Lklundin|talk]]) 19:09, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:The Lebanese Health Minister's claim can be mentioned, but shouldn't affect how we describe the events in wikivoice, since it's both a [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]] and [[WP:NIS|non-independent]] source. — [[User:XDanielx|<span style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; color: green;">xDanielx</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:XDanielx|T]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/XDanielx|C]]</sub>\<sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/xDanielx|R]]</sup> 16:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::I'm fine to include attribution. Keep in mind that ultimately, the most comprehensive casualty counts have come from government sources (the Israeli social security data for the [[October 7 Hamas attacks]], the Gaza Health Ministry for the [[Israeli invasion of Gaza]] etc.).'''[[User talk:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>(Please [[Template:Ping|ping]] on reply)</sub> 17:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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