Commons:Administrators/Requests/Amgine

 Support = 3;  Oppose = 4;  Neutral = z - 43% Result. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Amgine (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)

This is a request for extremely temporary and limited admin privs.

One of the ways I contribute to en.WN is retrieving files which have been deleted from Commons which are in use at en.WN, usually a few files per week. I pop into IRC and request help from Commons's admins, who very helpfully undelete the files long enough for me to copy and save the contents, then redelete them so I may upload to that project when they meet the fair use policy.

According to a recent database query there are ~950 files linked in the en.WN article archives which for various reasons have been deleted from commons. ZooFari, understandably, balked at undeleting/redeleting hundreds of files, and suggested I request temporary adminship - under the promise I would do nothing but look at deleted file contents - so I can work through this list without bothering Commons admins. I would prefer any other solution, such as doing this by bot, but until/unless someone has a better method I'm self-nomming to accomplish this task.

•  Oppose Concerns with experience/activity levels on Commons. While your offer to tackle the backlog is appreciated, I would like to see more recent experience on Commons before you are granted adminship. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Oppose per Fastily. --AFBorchert (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think there may be a slight miscommunication: I am not interested in becoming a Commons admin. I am interested in accessing these images very briefly for another project - the English Wikinews - after which I would ask for any admin privs to be revoked. A Commons admin suggested the size of the task is onerous, and I should instead ask for temporary admin privs rather than asking Commons admins to undelete/redelete each of them one at a time. I will happily work with you, AFBorchert, to undelete/redelete each of these files if that is preferred. - Amgine (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ok, a temporary adminship without admin actions is ok but then I would like to see an expiration date. --AFBorchert (talk) 08:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's a good idea. I think I could do it in a day if I figure out a script, but it would likely take 3-4 weeks if I can't. Feb 28? seems like a good drop-dead date. - Amgine (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support temporary adminship. As long as we don't see anything in admin log, I don't see how this can be a problem. --ZooFari 01:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support temporary flag, per nom. Trusted global editor since 2006. Maybe we should consider a new policy on deleting files linked from Wikinews? Anyways, will discuss that somewhere else. A little more experience here, and I may support your full adminship; we need more volunteers! :) Good luck. Rehman 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Oppose I see no period to this temp adminship and frankly the contributions leave me feeling it is highly unlikely this user actually understands Commons. Admin rights would be quite wrong I'm afraid. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Oppose. --Martin H. (talk) 13:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Do you have a reason? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A reason is preferable but not required. Most was said already, I concur with the arguments. I have my own consideration as in Commons:Administrators/Requests/Jclemens. I agree with Docu, in my own sample it is >>50% of the files that are not deleted on Commons but on Wikinews. Of the files from Commons many have been deleted <April 2006 and can not be restored, many have been deleted as copyvios with false author claims and cant be used under fair use with this false copyright holder information, fair use will require to find out the true copyright holder and if this it is possible it will also be possible to get a good image directly from the source (or to take another image, the editorial selection process "was available on Commons at that time because someone decided to upload it with a false author claim" is an rather awkward justification why an editorial choice was made to include that picture). In the sum there is not much to find out, and if the wikinews editors first look out for replacements or removal of bad uploads from their articles it will be lesser or nothing. If they have a specific question they have ~260 admins to ask. --Martin H. (talk) 23:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, thank you for elaborating. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support JJ Harrison (talk) 22:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Oppose not active enough. Multichill (talk) 18:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Since he has such a specific task (which is unfair to burden current admins with), I would gladly consider summarily sysopping Amgine temporarily if other 'crats agree. Lar, Eugene, anybody out there? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neither User:Amgine nor en:User:Amgine appear sufficiently active for such a thing. --  Docu  at 08:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a good thing he mentioned en.wikinews as his motivation for requesting temp. rights, in that case. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hmm, good point: n:User:Amgine does look better. --  Docu  at 15:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • I guess I'm just not sure why it's problematic to give Amgine a little help in his good-faith endeavors. Inactivity locally seems irrelevant to me given the user's specifically stated task of viewing an absolute list of deleted images. If an admin instead volunteers to undertake this task, that would be great, but failing that it seems reasonable to me to grant the flag for 3 days or a week or something. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
•  Comment looking at tools:~bawolff/enwikinews-missing-image.txt and the deletion logs at Commons for some of the images, I doubt that there is much to undelete given n:WN:FU#Fair_use_whitelist. Some images were never even hosted at Commons. Maybe one should check the logs first and compile a shorter list. --  Docu  at 15:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]