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* If you are in a disagreement with another editor, you can try [[WP:30|asking for a third opinion]]. There are also other processes for [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]].
* If you are in a disagreement with another editor, you can try [[WP:30|asking for a third opinion]]. There are also other processes for [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]].
* [[WP:TWL|The Wikipedia Library]] – this cannot be used until you have 6 months tenure, no active blocks, and 500 edits. However, once you meet the criteria, it is a very useful resource. There is also the [[Wikipedia:Resource Exchange]]. I have subscriptions to the ''[[Globe and Mail]]'', ''[[Toronto Star]]'', and ''[[Niagara Falls Review]]'', if you ever want me to verify something for you. I also have access to the James A. Gibson library at [[Brock University]].
* [[WP:TWL|The Wikipedia Library]] – this cannot be used until you have 6 months tenure, no active blocks, and 500 edits. However, once you meet the criteria, it is a very useful resource. There is also the [[Wikipedia:Resource Exchange]]. I have subscriptions to the ''[[Globe and Mail]]'', ''[[Toronto Star]]'', and ''[[Niagara Falls Review]]'', if you ever want me to verify something for you. I also have access to the James A. Gibson library at [[Brock University]].

== Your Noticeboard thread ==

Hello Clovermoss, I obviously don't mean to imply bad faith or anything, but your recent NPOV noticeboard thread on [[parental investment]] had me concerned. This seems to be a claim that is absolutely central to [[evolutionary psychology]] and can be found across thousands of solid RSs. I don't think it's a good idea to make an open-ended appeal like one might with GENSEX topics more generally. This really is hard science. [[User:Biohistorian15|Biohistorian15]] ([[User talk:Biohistorian15|talk]]) 19:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

:The language ''is'' quite clumsy, but not in an unduly POV sort of way, is it? One might speak of "biological females" I guess. [[User:Biohistorian15|Biohistorian15]] ([[User talk:Biohistorian15|talk]]) 19:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::My concern was not from a GENSEX perspective. I'm a cisgender woman and I think it's entirely reasonable to place this on the NPOV noticeboard. It's just straight up ''weird'' to say stuff like this in wikivoice. At the very least [[WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV]]. But generalizing people's behaviour (especially the way it is in that article) is really questionable. It's literally saying that women are only attracted to men with resources as if that's some unquestionable fact. It's important that stuff about humans is handled more delicately. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 19:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah, language sure isn't ideal, but that's more of a CIR than POV issue I think. "Ressource" has ''many'' meanings though. [[User:Biohistorian15|Biohistorian15]] ([[User talk:Biohistorian15|talk]]) 20:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I think it's very much ''less'' than ideal. For example, I have no interest in ever being a relationship with anyone so it's clearly incorrect to state that ''all'' woman act a certain way and have specific motivations for their sexual attraction. It's eerily similar to claims made by those in the [[Manosphere]]. I think starting a noticeboard thread is very much justified and there's definitely [[WP:DUE]] weight issues. As another editor has already stated {{tq|Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence}}. If you would like to dispute this, I encourage you to comment at the thread itself, because I'm not removing it. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 20:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:RepublicOfKorea1945|RepublicOfKorea1945]] on [[User:RepublicOfKorea1945]] (03:52, 8 September 2024) ==

Hi --[[User:RepublicOfKorea1945|RepublicOfKorea1945]] ([[User talk:RepublicOfKorea1945|talk]]) 03:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|RepublicOfKorea1945}} Hi as well. :) Did you have a question or were simply trying to introduce yourself? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 03:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Kingstonacuk|Kingstonacuk]] on [[Wikipedia talk:Content assessment]] (14:54, 9 September 2024) ==

Hello,
I am trying to post my query. But it's just bringing me back to the post page. Every time. --[[User:Kingstonacuk|Kingstonacuk]] ([[User talk:Kingstonacuk|talk]]) 14:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Kingstonacuk}}, could you be a bit more specific about what you're trying to do? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Mtankeu|Mtankeu]] (10:00, 10 September 2024) ==

Hi,
I'm trying to have my user page on wikipedia, so that we can search my name on google and have my wikipedia page.
I just finished my local user page "User:Mtankeu" but i want to use my name "Marius TANKEU" instead.

How to do that please?

Thanks! --[[User:Mtankeu|Mtankeu]] ([[User talk:Mtankeu|talk]]) 10:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Mtankeu}}. Userpages aren't really ''meant'' to show up in search engines because they're not encyclopedia content. Sometimes they do anyways but that's not the purpose of one. Please read [[Wikipedia:User page|this page]] about what userpages are for. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 11:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot.
::So how do i create a wikipedia page for myself that can be searched on search engines?
::Regards, [[User:Mtankeu|Mtankeu]] ([[User talk:Mtankeu|talk]]) 12:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Mtankeu}} Wikipedia isn't really for writing an article about yourself. Please see [[WP:NOTAD|this page]]. If you become [[WP:BASIC|notable]], someone that doesn't have a conflict of interest will probably create an article about you. Please note that [[Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|this isn't always a good thing]]. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 12:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you! in advance
::::Can i write an article about a charity opened 10 years ago? They are making a big impact in Africa since 10 years. [[User:Mtankeu|Mtankeu]] ([[User talk:Mtankeu|talk]]) 11:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Mtankeu}} Organizations (whether nonprofit or for profit) actually have to meet additional requirements to be what Wikipedia considers to be notable. Read [[WP:NORG|this page]] to find out what those are. Hopefully you'll be able to find the coverage you need if they're making a big impact. If you link the sources you'd like to cite, I can provide my perspective on whether or not they meet those requirements. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 11:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== Congrats! ==

I just read your Signpost article. I hadn’t heard about you being Wikimedia of the Year. Well-done! [[User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|Mr Serjeant Buzfuz]] ([[User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz|talk]]) 12:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

== Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024 ==

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== Question from [[User:Blackhaert007|Blackhaert007]] on [[Siwa]] (17:11, 13 September 2024) ==

Hello sir, i wanted to create a webpage of a place with its stats and history all arrangend in systematic order. I'm a beginner. --[[User:Blackhaert007|Blackhaert007]] ([[User talk:Blackhaert007|talk]]) 17:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Blackhaert007}}. I'll leave some links on your talk page that should help you as a newbie. If you're trying to create an article, I suggest that you read [[WP:YFA|this guide]]. It's important that the subject meets [[WP:GNG|Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion]]. Let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 17:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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: Thanks! Not September 16 quite yet in my timezone but I can't believe it's been six years already. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 00:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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== Editor reflections ==

Although 3/4 years passed after this successful interview (that actually brought you into the podium of Wikimania Katowice last month), the interview is spreading into the Simple English Wikipedia with [[simple:User:Cactusisme/Editor reflections|this]]. I would congratulate you again for this achievement at such a young age. Just FYI. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit|talk]]) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:It hasn't even been a year yet. I did get pinged about the Simple English Wikipedia version earlier this morning and I posted about it at [[User talk:Clovermoss/Editor reflections]]. Thanks for making sure I knew about it, though. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion|Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion]] (19:48, 17 September 2024) ==

Hello I would want to add a page for my band on wikipedia how do I do it --[[User:Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion|Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion]] ([[User talk:Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion|talk]]) 19:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi {{ping|Purplepridefamilyvocalfusion}} You would have a conflict of interest because it is "your" band and I would suggest you not try to create an article about it for that reason. If you really want to try, please read [[WP:COIE|this guide]], which also says that this path is ''highly discouraged''. The band would have to meet the requirements for what Wikipedia considers to be [[WP:NBAND|notable]] and written in [[WP:NPOV|neutral language]], as Wikipedia is not [[WP:NOTAD|for promotional purposes]]. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 20:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Lisbon Experience|Lisbon Experience]] (11:51, 19 September 2024) ==

Hi I'm doing a research work about some aspects of the Portuguese history. The article is quiet ready to be published. I've read some of the conditions to publish and understood that I need to do at least 10 reviews of existent articles do publish. Am I right? --[[User:Lisbon Experience|Lisbon Experience]] ([[User talk:Lisbon Experience|talk]]) 11:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Lisbon Experience}} You don't have to "review" existing articles. You could start a [[Wikipedia:draft|draft]] that someone could review and move to mainspace for you, or you could move it yourself if you have "autoconfirmed" (this happens when you've had your account for 4 days and made 10 edits, just commenting here counts as one). I would suggest making sure that you're following all the advice for creating [[WP:YFA|your first article]] before you do that, though. Let me know if you have any further questions. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 12:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

== I did read your stuff ==

Formulating a couple of questions, nothing anywhere near as time-consuming as the time sink that surely was. Great job. Probably will be a day or two more before I can get them to you. Thank you so much. [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 18:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:Is this in regards to [[Talk:2021 Canadian church burnings#Text source integrity analysis]] or something else? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 13:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::the church stuff, thanks [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 17:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Haris-Rahmani|Haris-Rahmani]] (13:29, 21 September 2024) ==

how can i edit the articls --[[User:Haris-Rahmani|Haris-Rahmani]] ([[User talk:Haris-Rahmani|talk]]) 13:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Haris-Rahmani}} What article are you trying to edit? Usually you can just click the "edit" button but some articles are [[Wikipedia:Protection|protected]], in which case you'd need to make an [[Wikipedia:Edit request|edit request]] on the talk page. Feel free to ask me further questions if you find any of this confusing. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 13:33, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:CamTheLearning|CamTheLearning]] (18:25, 21 September 2024) ==

I'm looking to and deeply interested in making a wiki on miraheze about theKnowledge users may not know about how to use their computer. Things like terminology, how file paths are structured and why they are used by applications. Explaining basic concepts like what a start button is, etc. Essentially I want to be able to provide a resource where a reader con go in knowing nothing about their computer, and come away knowing more in a easy to follow organization method. I have some ideas about how to structure some articles but ideally need refining and feedback. So, I approach you today asking if you have any specific ideas about how a wiki page should be structured in terms on content organization (like how news articles are using the inverted pyramid format for information). I apologize if this is out of scope for your assistance and feedback. --[[User:CamTheLearning|CamTheLearning]] ([[User talk:CamTheLearning|talk]]) 18:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|CamTheLearning}}. It is a bit out of scope so the best I can do is really point you towards the direction of {{u|PixDeVl}}. They're the only person I know who knows anything about Miraheze. Anyways, I'm here if you ever want to learn more about how Wikipedia editing works. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::<small> Thanks for the heads-up Clover, appreciate it!</small>
::@[[User:CamTheLearning|CamTheLearning]] I'm not personally very experienced in article structuring, since I sold my soul from the article editing business to admin and internalism stuff a year ago, but I can try and give my 2 cents. For general encyclopedia article structure, ironically I tend to point at Wikimedia, but for something like this where you need to explain things it's more nuanced. I'd suggest looking at existing resources that have been said to help by their intended audience and go from there(although some creativity may be needed). At a first glance [https://edu.gcfglobal.org/en/computerbasics/] looks to be a decent guide to take inspiration from. I'd highly suggest trying to get other people on board to help since lot's of single person projects can be very hard to maintain. I'm not familiar enough with Wikimedia to point you to WP:How to structure an article(although projectspace may have something, maybe someone else knows). Apologies I can't be of much help, if you want to try and ask the wider Miraheze community about ideas or general assistance, our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Discord Discord]/[https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/IRC IRC] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CN Community Portal] our probably your best bet. Feel free to ask me if there's anything else, I may ping if I think of other useful resources. Sorry again, and have a great day! '''''[[User:PixDeVl|<span style="color:#ff00ae">PixDeVl</span>]] <span style='color:teal'><small>[[User Talk:PixDeVl|<span style='color:#36d9c8'><s>yell</s> talk to me!</span>]]</small></span>''''' 19:33, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the replies @[[User:Clovermoss|Clovermoss]] and @[[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] !
:::I will read through some resources, slowly. This project is something I see as a necessary resource, and while Important, I am still brainstorming quite a lot and reading up on ... so many things. [[User:CamTheLearning|CamTheLearning]] ([[User talk:CamTheLearning|talk]]) 20:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You know why. [[User:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:light blue;"><span style="font-size:110%">''Fathoms Below''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span>]] 19:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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:+1 to this. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 00:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
::That RfA did not go the way I thought it would. I think I'm just going to sit with this feeling for awhile. I try not to make any impulsive decisions when I'm not feeling like myself and time can be helpful when it comes to reflection. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 01:11, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

== Re: User name ==

Saw [[User:Replicative_Cloverleaf|this]] on my watchlist and immediately thought of you. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

:I noticed them too last month. It is a good username. :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 22:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::I'm always a month behind! [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hello there! :) [[User:Replicative Cloverleaf|Replicative Cloverleaf]] ([[User talk:Replicative Cloverleaf|talk]]) 21:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:OMG TEAM japan|OMG TEAM japan]] (13:53, 26 September 2024) ==

Hello --[[User:OMG TEAM japan|OMG TEAM japan]] ([[User talk:OMG TEAM japan|talk]]) 13:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|OMG TEAM japan}} Hi to you as well. Do you have any questions about editing Wikipedia? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== Please be more careful ==
Hi there. Please try to be a little more careful about [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Significa_liberdade&diff=prev&oldid=1246429543 statements like this]. I never stated that Significa didn't do her due diligence. Please be more careful about putting words in other people's mouths. Thank you. Happy editing. [[User:GrammarDamner|<span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: #6633ff; color: #ffffff;">GrammarDamner</span>]] [[User talk:GrammarDamner|<span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: Pink; color: #ffffff;">how are things?</span>]] 17:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|GrammarDamner}} While you didn't say those words exactly, that is the interpretation I got from reading them. I'm open to feedback but I'm not sure what the issue is here? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 17:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::When I quoted you, I made that clear. But I really don't see what the problem is with me refuting your central argument that Significa was starting AfDs that didn't have a lack of notability/referencing (when these AfDs were very much worth starting). Saying what you said ''strongly implies'' that someone isn't doing their due diligence in regards to starting AfDs. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 17:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:::It's the word state, isn't it? I think I can see why you might have an issue with that comment now. It would've been better if I'd use the word implied, instead. Does that resolve your concerns {{u|GrammarDamner}}? Alternatively I should have quoted you first and then said I disagree and I dislike that this implies that she didn't do her due diligence? This obviously matters to you because you wouldn't bring it up more than a week after the RfA ended if it didn't. To be quite frank, that RfA has made me quite jaded about things and I hope I didn't come across as too defensive here. The immense frustration I felt then has not settled yet. I'm not sure it ever will. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 21:04, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::::That kind of resolves my concerns. The word state does flat out say that I said something I never said. I also notice that you didn't object to anyone else in that way, even though I was not the first and far from the only one to oppose for those reasons. I'm also still quite frustrated about that RfA. I'm not frustrated that it passed and Significa was promoted to admin, I'm upset about that "central argument" thing. Nobody ever said that ''all'' of Significa's AfD's were bad, and Joe Roe, among others, pointed out that some of them indeed were well-referenced/notable. These references and notabilities were acknowledged by some supporters but deemed not enough to oppose (which is fine), they were ignored by some supporters (also okay), and they were denied by some supporters (which is troublesome). I'm sorry, I could go on and on obviously. Anyway, thank you. [[User:GrammarDamner|<span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: #6633ff; color: #ffffff;">GrammarDamner</span>]] [[User talk:GrammarDamner|<span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: Pink; color: #ffffff;">how are things?</span>]] 14:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|GrammarDamner}} Ignoring things doesn't make them go away and I'd prefer we both walk away from this conversation feeling like our concerns were acknowledged. I wasn't using the word state there to intentionally single you out, it was literally me just not thinking through how I arranged a sentence. In regards to {{tq|didn't object to anyone else in that way}}, I did reply to other people in that RfA. I do think we'll have to agree to disagree about {{tq|they were denied by some supporters (which is troublesome)}}. One of the things that bothered me most about that RfA is that it turned into some huge philosophical battle about drafticiation and I think that's fundamentally unfair to the candidate. For example, the drafticiation of [[Draft:TAO (brand)]], given as an example of newbie biting, was well within normal drafticiation practice and I would've done it myself. "Backdoor deletion" was also given as a concern when that's explicitly ''not'' what drafticiation is about ([[WP:DRAFTIFY]]). To me, this felt like someone criticizing someone for deleting G11s for being unambiguously promotional because the subject is notable and someone could theoretically write a neutral article. An RfA is not a place to get mad at someone for following current practices. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::To extend my thoughts on the [[WP:G11]] comparison, that page states that {{tq|If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion}} but a page can still be deleted if it's unambiguously promotional. Some people find this preferable per [[WP:TNT]] and also because they don't want to reward spammers. It's normal for Wikipedians to disagree on things. But I think the thing that made me very jaded about the RfA is that that was held against the candidate even though she wasn't really doing anything wrong (some mistaken G4s aside). [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 16:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Chainsaaaw|Chainsaaaw]] (17:30, 26 September 2024) ==

I was looking through articles and found this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHeartMedia and want to learn how to fix the infobox as it's broken and I think I could learn how to better fix articles if I learn how to fix this one. --[[User:Chainsaaaw|Chainsaaaw]] ([[User talk:Chainsaaaw|talk]]) 17:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Chainsaaaw}} Thanks for noticing. I fixed the infobox by reverting the recent changes made by an IP editor (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IHeartMedia&diff=1247907338&oldid=1247889853 here]). I'm not sure what advice to give on fixing articles like this other than be really careful when messing around with templates... a missing | or }} tends to cause most of these issues in my experience. It can help to "preview" a bunch of times if you're ever unsure and trying different things until they work. I could ask around if you want more specific advice. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 17:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== ''The Signpost'': 26 September 2024 ==

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{{tps}} I saw your recent removal of a mentor question on my watchlist, and if my google translate is correct, they just posted some info about a village. There was no question. [[User:GrayStorm|GrayStorm]]<sup>([[User_talk:GrayStorm|Complaints Dept.]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/GrayStorm|My Contribs.]])</sup> 23:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

:Okay, thanks. Google translate was literally giving me an error whenever I tried to copy that and I just gave up. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 23:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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* "[[diffblog:2024/09/24/wikimania-katowice-coverage-travels-around-the-world/|Wikimania Katowice coverage travels around the world]]" – a curated list of community and media coverage of Wikimania 2024. Over 100 pieces so far have been published about the event.
* [[m:Campaigns/Future of WikiForHumanRights/Regional Conversations/Home|WikiForHumanRights]] will lead a conversation about the future of the campaign with [[m:Event:Campaigns/Future of WikiForHumanRights/Regional Conversations/Africa|the Africa region]] on September 25 at 15:00 UTC.
* [[m:Grants:Knowledge Sharing/Connect|Let’s Connect]]: [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc2ZlVtIB_sVsnuvJ7NogSJ9DHOWnafOnQg2RyjjpwvYLKPRw/viewform “Technology for Language Diversity in Wikimedia”] will take place on September 26 at 15:00 UTC.
* [[m:Wikisource Conference 2025|Wikisource Conference 2025]], the [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKU36artM5fVRFeG9GAZGhJSVFJKlACkywvE522fJ6zBf_nA/viewform deadline for scholarship applications]  has been extended to September 29.
* [[m:EU policy/Big Fat Brussels Meeting 9|Big Fat Brussels Meeting 9]] will be held in Brussels, Belgium from September 29–30'''.'''
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* [[m:WikiIndaba conference 2024|WikiIndaba Conference 2024]] will be held in Johannesburg, South Africa from October 4–6.
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* [[m:ESEAP Hub/Meetings/6 October 2024|ESEAP Community Call]] will be held on October 6 at 07:00 UTC.
* [[m:Wikimedia+Libraries International Convention 2025|Wikimedia+Libraries International Convention 2025]] is accepting submissions until October 6.
* [[mw:Translation suggestions: Topic-based & Community-defined lists/Community space/Conversations|The Language and Product Localisation]] team is hosting two office hours to discuss this year's plans and gather feedback from event organizers. The first session is October 5 at 16:00 UTC (Europe-Africa-Americas friendly), and the second is on October 6 at 03:00 UTC (Asia-Pacific friendly).

'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Infrastructure|Infrastructure]]'''
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* '''MediaWiki Product Insights''': The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Reports/August 2024|latest edition]] includes details about: research about [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Hooks|hook]] handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
* '''Tech News''': Find out about the new automated [[m:Special:NamespaceInfo|Special:NamespaceInfo]] page, the latest Wishlist focus area, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Focus areas/Template recall and discovery|Template recall and discovery]], and more [[diffblog:2024/09/17/tech-news-2024-38/|recent tech updates]].
* '''Wikidata Query Service''': [[d:Wikidata:SPARQL query service/WDQS graph split|A new change to Wikidata Query Service]] will impact certain uses. The project will enter a transition period until the end of February 2025. For more details, visit the [[d:Wikidata:SPARQL query service/WDQS backend update/September 2024 scaling update|announcement page]].
* '''Wikimedia Enterprise''': [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/blog/enhanced-free-api/ Enhanced Free API Accounts]: Recurring Credits and More Frequent Updates, [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/blog/structured-contents-snapshot-api/ early beta release of Structured Contents in Snapshot API], and [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/blog/hugging-face-dataset/ early beta dataset release to Hugging Face].
* '''Wikifunctions''': [https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Status_updates/2024-09-20 Status updates] from September 20.
* '''Wikipedia Mobile Apps:''' Over 20,000 images have been added via the "Add an Image" feature on both iOS and Android ([[phab:T372954|T372954]])!
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==My apologies==
Hello, Clovermoss,

I thought I was editing [[WP:AN]] but somehow I ended up on that Talk page and I never looked up from the bottom of the page to see where I was. I'm embarrassed and just reverted my message. Sorry for my confusion. I must have clicked on a link and didn't realize where I had gone. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 01:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Liz}} No worries. It happens to the best of us. :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 01:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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== Question from [[User:VendingLegend|VendingLegend]] (20:52, 30 September 2024) ==

Greetings!

Noob question, but how can I see whether my edit suggestions were approved? --[[User:VendingLegend|VendingLegend]] ([[User talk:VendingLegend|talk]]) 20:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|VendingLegend}} Never feel bad for asking questions, no one is born magically knowing how to edit Wikipedia. Could you be a bit more specific about what exactly you mean by "edit suggestions"? Are you writing [[Wikipedia:Edit requests|edit request]]s on the talk page? Are you editing pages directly and then someone undoes your changes? Or do you mean something else? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 21:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Yes! On the edit request page [[User:VendingLegend|VendingLegend]] ([[User talk:VendingLegend|talk]]) 22:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VendingLegend}} I took a look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=VendingLegend&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=500 your contributions] and I'm not seeing any edits to an article talk page. Are you talking about the edit you made to [[Vending machine]]? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vending_machine&diff=prev&oldid=1248673028] It's usually best to [[WP:BRD|discuss this]] with the editor in question ({{u|AntiDionysius}}) but in this case I'd assume that it's because you have not cited a source for the content you added (which is important, as [[WP:V|verifiability]] is one of the [[WP:5P|five pillars]] of editing). [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 22:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – October 2024 ==

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*[[Wikipedia:Administrator elections|Administrator elections]] are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to [[WP:RFA|requests for adminship]] (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with [[Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Call for candidates|candidate sign-up]] from October 8 to 14, a [[Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Discussion phase|discussion phase]] from October 22 to 24, and [[meta:SecurePoll|SecurePoll voting]] from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections]].
* Following [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#"File pages without a corresponding file"|a discussion]], the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion [[WP:CSD#G8|G8]] to [[WP:CSD#F2|F2]]. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
* A [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Administrator Recall|request for comment]] is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an [[Wikipedia:Administrator recall|administrator recall]] process.

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* An arbitration case regarding [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion|Backlash to diversity and inclusion]] has been opened.
* Editors are invited to '''[[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Electoral Commission|nominate themselves]]''' to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until ''23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC)''.

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== WCNA challenge link ==

Enjoy! https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2024/Editing_Challenge <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 01:03, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== WCNA talk ==

Thanks for you talk. It inspired me to try mobile editing again. This is my first talk page post [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] ([[User talk:Guettarda|talk]]) 15:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Guettarda}} I'm glad that you liked my presentation. :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== Mobile editing ==

Speaking of mobile, i thought https://jenson.org/text/ was a really interesting article that might interest you. [[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] ([[User talk:Bawolff|talk]]) 15:03, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Bawolff}} Thanks for sharing this with me. I appreciate it. :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== Link to Wikipedia Day proclamation ==

Here is the link to the Indianapolis proclamation that you asked me about: https://wikiconference.org/images/wikiconf/8/82/Wikipedia_Day.pdf [[User:Cloud atlas|Cloud atlas]] ([[User talk:Cloud atlas|talk]]) 15:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Cloud atlas}} Thanks, I used this as a reference on wikidata. :) [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 15:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== "0 views" Android bug ==

Hey @[[User:Clovermoss|Clovermoss]] -- the team is now tracking that "0 views" bug you showed me on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376486

@[[User:JTanner (WMF)|JTanner (WMF)]] added you as a watcher. [[User:MMiller (WMF)|MMiller (WMF)]] ([[User talk:MMiller (WMF)|talk]]) 16:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|MMiller (WMF)}} Thanks. Do you think that it'd be helpful if I uploaded a screenshot of the issue there? [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 16:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Clovermoss|Clovermoss]] -- I sent Jaz my photo of your phone, but sure it will be helpful to have a screenshot on the Phab task if you get a chance! [[User:MMiller (WMF)|MMiller (WMF)]] ([[User talk:MMiller (WMF)|talk]]) 16:41, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:DIVYA70761|DIVYA70761]] on [[B. Devendrappa]] (18:53, 5 October 2024) ==

Hello,
I’d like to add a few pictures and an audio file to the Wikipedia page, could you please help,thank you. --[[User:DIVYA70761|DIVYA70761]] ([[User talk:DIVYA70761|talk]]) 18:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|DIVYA70761}} Could you be a bit more specific about the content you wish to add and why you're doing so (what page, for what reason, and do you own the rights to the work?). There's a lot of nuances that's involved when it comes to adding media, and both Wikipedia and [[Wikimedia Commons]] are strict about removing copyright violations. [[User:Clovermoss|<span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span>]] [[User talk:Clovermoss|(talk)]] 18:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for your keynote at WikiConference North America 2024! Well done and congratulations. –DMartin 14:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm just glad that it's over. It was very hard trying to write a delicate balance about my childhood trauma (trust me, this is the incredibly condensed version) and then explaining why/how Wikipedia became so important to me. I've definitely shared this before but it's different on a stage. I spent a lot of time last night debating whether I want to rewrite the whole thing last second in case I didn't want to go through with it. But I did what I practiced instead. 😅 Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also was not expecting anyone to name a fundraiser after my keynote... so today's been a bit surprising, to say the least. I'm not sure how to feel. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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